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bespoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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changer i occasionally think how

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quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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the global radio alliance

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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good evening

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fade to black

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bespoke radio for

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the messes

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yeah man you can see me on the camera

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you see i'm

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just sitting down getting this day

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started it's monday january 11

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2021.

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11 days into the new year only 354 days

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we are live from a bunker a bunker that

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is somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the

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united states hither and tether to

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and fro back and forth up and down

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east and west north and south far

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and near this is fade to black for kjcr

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the game changer network and kgra the

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i am your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how was your weekend

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crazy week for the united states

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crazy week coming up for the united

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richard dolan is here we're going to be

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talking about how the u.s

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is being put to the test tomorrow night

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talking about the big

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tech drama taking over the world right

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we're going to be talking about free

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incredible week this week on fade to

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another fader night with open lines all

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truly the greatest night in all of talk

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the ratings game that's right the

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but we knew that sean hannity all that

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how cool is that and that's some pretty

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stiff competition number 14 right above

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number 15. all right follow me on

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all right let's get to all of the

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breaking news lots to talk about tonight

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where am i at the new york state bar

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birthday to today jazz

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great guitarist lee written hour

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today 69 years old the bengals guitars

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today is

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danny was a member of shana nah

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the kingsmen which was known for their

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louis louis the television show shot on

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air from 1978 to 1981 and denny corey

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graft most of the moves for the show he

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was portrayed in the series as the most

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intelligent member of shananna

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he sang lead in the song tears on my

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when he appeared was shot on the movie

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woodstock with sean ana

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opening for jimi hendrix but here's the

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denny also graduated from yale law

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school of law where he taught

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entertainment law

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he was also a visiting professor at

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several

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other universities including ohio state

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seton hall

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and the university of connecticut greene

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also served on the board of directors

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for the society of american law

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teachers from 2007 until his death he

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was a professor

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of law at the university of dayton law

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school

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danny died in dayton on september 5th

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2015

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from cancer just two weeks after his

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diagnosis

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who knew on this day in history 1964

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the u.s surgeon general announces

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definitive links between smoking and

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cancer the announcement was made

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on a saturday because u.s surgeon

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general luther terry

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thought that nobody would notice and

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that's a fact

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and here's your fader fact for the day

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in 1903

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horatio nelson jackson and seawall

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k crocker and bud the pitbull

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became the first people to drive across

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the united states

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in a 20-horsepower winton touring car

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the trip took 64 days started in san

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francisco and ended in new york

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by the end of the trip there were no

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original parts

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left on the vehicle and that

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that is your fader fact go check it out

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go check it out all right what a cut you

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know

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i talk about it all the time said it

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last week said it the week before said

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it the month before said it the

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the year before today's the craziest

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news day ever

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and it just built up built up built up

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day after day after day to the craziness

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you thought last week was the peak

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and then we had this weekend

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absolute insanity that's why tonight we

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have very special guest

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richard dolan is here we're going to be

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talking about how the us

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right now is being put to the test

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tomorrow night greg housh is here we're

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going to be talking about all of the big

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tech drama

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right now that has taken over the world

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your world

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wednesday night john greenwald is here

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we're going to be talking about free

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speech

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the first amendment right we're going to

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be talking about private company rights

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and

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then

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somehow we'll make it to thursday when

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it's another fader night with open lines

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all night long

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and uh it's gonna be a great what a week

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on the show

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we'll get through it folks we'll get

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through it it's a bumpy ride

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you know looking at 2021 and how happy

361
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everybody was

362
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you know on new year's eve 2020 remember

363
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that last week

364
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i wonder if there's an exchange policy

365
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can we trade it in right now do you want

366
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2020 back

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no not yet don't don't it's it's not

368
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that yet

369
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but uh go to river moon go to

370
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rivermoonwellness.com right now and get

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yourself

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some fade to black blend coffee

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all right the links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com all right

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parlor parlor

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a number of hackers and security

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researchers collected huge downloads of

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user and company data

379
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before the network went dark last night

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after amazon google

381
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and apple booted the platform not

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one hacker many

383
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it was so easy that anybody who was

384
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bored or had some free time over the

385
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weekend

386
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got in on the action for two or three

387
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days

388
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the hackers created one

389
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fake parlor admin account

390
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and then used that account to create a

391
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handful

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of new fake admin accounts now stay with

393
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me

394
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then they wrote a simple script

395
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that ended up creating millions of fake

396
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parlor admin accounts and then posted it

397
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all

398
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every hacker on planet earth who wanted

399
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a full-on

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parlor admin account got one

401
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seriously right now

402
00:18:00,789 --> 00:17:57,600
it's not known how many people

403
00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,799
downloaded the farm but at this point it

404
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:02,080
doesn't matter

405
00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:05,200
after a few dozen who's counting

406
00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:09,360
they got it all everything

407
00:18:16,710 --> 00:18:13,520
all of it parlors company data

408
00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:16,720
is now on hundreds of drives around the

409
00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:23,110
when amazon aws amazon web services

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announced

411
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that they were pulling the plug on

412
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parlor hacker

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donk enby quickly went to work and

414
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downloaded

415
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99 of everything

416
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including user data

417
00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:42,400
current posts deleted posts

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messages everything

419
00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:49,679
all of the private data and all of the

420
00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:50,480
uploaded

421
00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:54,840
raw video files by parlor users

422
00:19:02,870 --> 00:18:59,200
including all metadata and gps locations

423
00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:02,880
of where the videos were recorded

424
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:04,640
and if that doesn't scare the crap out

425
00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:11,110
donk enby later shared a screenshot

426
00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:13,600
showing the gps position of a particular

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video

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with coordinates in latitude and

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longitude

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donkenby has right now

431
00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:27,600
over 56 terabytes of data

432
00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:30,720
and others have said that the number

433
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:45,110
have

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00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:48,470
verified their identity by uploading

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00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:50,320
photographs of government

436
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issued ids such as

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now to get specific user data

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00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:03,760
and register a new account you would

439
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:04,799
need a ver

440
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:07,200
very very sophisticated system on your

441
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:07,919
front end

442
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:11,679
right something totally secure

443
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:14,400
something locked diagrammed coded and

444
00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:17,280
looked after by an amazing team leader

445
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:20,559
right of course

446
00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:23,440
parlor is a cutting-edge social media

447
00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:25,360
network it is modern

448
00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:27,440
with a platform custom built from the

449
00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:28,559
ground up

450
00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:36,390
right not so fast

451
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:43,110
to get the user data

452
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:46,320
parlor was using free

453
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:51,039
trial software from octa

454
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:54,080
to store and verify all their user

455
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:55,120
identities

456
00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:58,559
up until they went dark last night

457
00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:00,400
in case you missed it maybe you didn't

458
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:03,919
hear me right so i'll say it again

459
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:07,840
parlor to get their user data

460
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:10,880
was using free trial software

461
00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,080
from octa to store and verify

462
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:16,799
all of their user identities up until

463
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:17,200
they

464
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:20,240
went dark last night you can't make this

465
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:21,440
stuff up

466
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:24,880
in a statement just released octa said

467
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:27,679
quote we were notified that parlor was

468
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,240
using a free trial of octa's product

469
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:32,640
and we have terminated parlors access to

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00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:34,960
the octa platform

471
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,960
while we support organizations across

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00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:38,720
the political spectrum

473
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:40,480
our platform will not be used for

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00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,919
threats of violence and

475
00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:44,640
illegal activity which also includes

476
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,280
expo

477
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:47,440
exploiting free trial software instead

478
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:48,720
of paying for it

479
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:53,360
for over two years so in review

480
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:55,520
all of the user data from parlor

481
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:57,679
accounts that was collected using free

482
00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:58,240
trial

483
00:22:01,430 --> 00:22:00,640
software from octa over the last two

484
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:01,440
years

485
00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:04,799
has been hacked by multiple independent

486
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:05,840
individuals

487
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:08,720
oh the irony in all of this and i didn't

488
00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:12,480
even mention cambridge analytica

489
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:14,640
the new social media platform that was

490
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:16,799
all about freedom of speech

491
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:19,840
integrity honesty and a high

492
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:22,880
higher social standard for its users

493
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,120
was ripping off octa and not paying for

494
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,600
the software

495
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,000
i've been poking around for uh on a few

496
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,559
of the techie websites about all of this

497
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:34,480
and there's a vicious rumor going around

498
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:35,679
that parlor was

499
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:39,440
also built on a wordpress template

500
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:43,679
not custom designed software

501
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:47,120
collecting data your data

502
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:50,400
your driver's licenses

503
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:53,520
with a wordpress template now i haven't

504
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:54,000
visited

505
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:57,440
parlor okay all right i'm not picking on

506
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,960
parlor

507
00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:01,200
and now i can't check it out in person

508
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,080
to verify

509
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:05,360
any of this the site is down but

510
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:07,840
from the chatter that i've gathered from

511
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:09,760
those in the know

512
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:12,640
parlor had opened front and back doors

513
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:12,960
to

514
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,600
easy that the hackers aren't calling it

515
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:20,799
hacking

516
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:25,360
they call it wait for it they were just

517
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,000
logging in the data breach

518
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:33,039
and download bonanza that happened

519
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:36,799
so fast by so many that there wasn't

520
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:40,720
any time to stop it or really even know

521
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:41,679
about it

522
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:44,480
or warn users that they should delete

523
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,760
their data

524
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:47,919
changing passwords wouldn't have done

525
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:50,080
anything the downloads were being

526
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:53,200
done by actual uh or

527
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,400
fake uh well real administrators

528
00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:00,480
and nobody a parlor was smart enough to

529
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,760
know what was going on

530
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:04,480
and here is the irony on the actual

531
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:05,919
irony

532
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:09,200
parlor was trying to sign up as many as

533
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:11,360
possible over the last few days as

534
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:13,679
thousands of twitter users closed their

535
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,559
accounts

536
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:16,559
and as soon as someone left twitter to

537
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,000
parlor all of

538
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:20,880
their private data was being downloaded

539
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:22,000
by a hacker

540
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:25,760
at the same time in actual

541
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:32,630
now one more layer of irony for you

542
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:35,760
just like wikileaks you'd better think

543
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:36,240
about

544
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:40,080
what you do or say on a computer

545
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:42,240
because all of parlor's deleted

546
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:43,600
conversations

547
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:46,799
planning email

548
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:50,640
people names that were to be

549
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:54,240
private forever were just downloaded and

550
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:54,799
stored

551
00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:57,039
and are now being read by people who

552
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:58,880
probably are not considered

553
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:01,919
friends and all of it

554
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,919
will find its way into the public domain

555
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:05,600
for the world to see

556
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,080
and you can count on it just like a

557
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,880
wikileaks free-for-all

558
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,559
did you sign up for parlor with your

559
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:14,640
driver's license

560
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:18,880
somebody out there a lot of somebody's

561
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:23,120
has it right now

562
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:25,520
now parlor is unlikely to rebound

563
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:26,240
quickly

564
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,600
if at all migrating 56 terabytes of

565
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:31,679
product off of aws

566
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,159
can take months of staging and possibly

567
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:36,159
years to execute

568
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,120
apps that integrate aws wide array of

569
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:41,360
services cannot be easily transposed

570
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:43,840
onto different hosting environments

571
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:46,720
and then there is the nasty issue of the

572
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:48,640
pirated user data

573
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:52,159
that needs octa servers to run

574
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:53,919
should the platform relaunch anytime

575
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,320
soon and it is possible

576
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:58,880
it will only be a shell of its former

577
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:00,159
self

578
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,320
now am i picking on parlor certainly not

579
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:06,559
this could be said about a lot of sites

580
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out there

581
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,520
parlor is the one making the headlines

582
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:17,830
and i just report the news tonight

583
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:20,880
very special guest richard dolan is here

584
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,000
we're going to be talking about what's

585
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going on right now america the united

586
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states

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00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:28,400
is truly being put to the test

588
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:30,000
tomorrow night greg house is here we're

589
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going to be talking about all of this

590
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:34,240
big tech drama that is going down

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all of it coordinated quick

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fast and it's the united states it's the

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citizens of this country

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that are caught in the middle wednesday

595
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,320
night

596
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,000
john greenwald joins us we're going to

597
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:50,159
be talking about free speech what is it

598
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:53,279
the first amendment what is it private

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00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:54,640
company rights

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censorship all of that on wednesday

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night it is going to be an amazing

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fantastic

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knowledgeable week here on fade to black

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you're not going to

605
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want to miss one minute of any show

606
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you can follow me on twitter at j church

607
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radio if there's anybody left on twitter

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to follow me

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[Laughter]

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holy crap what a week

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what a week what a week follow me on

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twitter at j church radio email is

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jimmy jimmychurchradio.com

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you can follow richard dolan at rich

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dolan all of that

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is up in twitter right now you can go

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and do that

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and uh i'm saying hello to everybody in

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the chat rooms

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over on the bunker cam youtube think

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about

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everything that i just laid out for you

623
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,799
if this isn't the craziest week ever i

624
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:46,159
said to rita

625
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:47,919
i said it to richard right before the

626
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:50,000
show i don't know what's going on but

627
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all day today i felt like i was

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in the game silent hill for real

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i mean i'm i'm in this tunnel

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vision video game madness

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it's crazy and i'm not the only one

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church tonight richard nolan

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tomorrow night greg house

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wednesday john greenwald thursday night

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is another fader night with open lines

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all night long this is fade to black

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kgra the planet i'll be right back after

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nolan

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you can do today is to stockpile

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in fact they're the only source my

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family trusts for our preparedness plan

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you should too right now save 20

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off a full four week supply of delicious

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meals that provide

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2 000 calories a day saving 20

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helps too doesn't it especially now so

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go to prepare with jimmy.com and get

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ready

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that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

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time to lose

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do it now

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fade to black is not

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your father's radio show on the game

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kgra the planet

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00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:18,159
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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up i'm chris jimmychurchradio.com up

746
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this is jimmy church radio

747
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:45,190
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

748
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:50,710
crazy week last week crazy week coming

749
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:52,000
up crazy week coming

750
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:53,600
up on fade to black tonight richard

751
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:57,120
dolan is here tomorrow night greg house

752
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:59,519
wednesday night john greenwald all of

753
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:00,880
this

754
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:04,080
about

755
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,600
the united states and what is going on

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00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:07,360
right now on the tech side freedom of

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00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:08,000
speech

758
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:11,919
censorship everything

759
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:14,079
tonight richard we're going to be

760
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:15,599
covering all the latest developments

761
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:16,879
that have rocked the united states and

762
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,520
the world over the last week all of them

763
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,599
and i doubt that any of the conversation

764
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,599
tonight will have any ufos or

765
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:26,000
alternative three richard insert

766
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:27,359
laughter right there

767
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,359
this is this is one of the craziest week

768
00:34:34,069 --> 00:34:33,599
in all of history and before i get down

769
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,079
to

770
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:36,079
uh going through all of richard's

771
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,599
accomplishments and

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00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,440
and and what he means to me personally

773
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:41,520
for the show and the ufo community and

774
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:43,359
our community in general

775
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,560
uh it it it's without measure okay i've

776
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,079
had the opportunity

777
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:50,720
to introduce richard uh at multiple

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00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,520
conferences

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00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:53,839
uh across this country and i say the

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00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:55,359
same thing every time i introduce him

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00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:56,879
that it's an honor and a pleasure to

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00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:58,160
call him a friend

783
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:01,200
but it was those ten minutes uh

784
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,400
that he spent at the at the panel for

785
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,560
disclosure at the press club in

786
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:08,240
washington dc

787
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,200
that uh stick with me forever and with

788
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:13,359
that you can go to richarddolenpress.com

789
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,320
the links are over

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00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,400
at jimmychurchradio.com you can read his

791
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,079
bio there

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00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,160
and i want to bring out the fade to

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00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,160
black richard

794
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,480
how are you man hey jimmy thanks for

795
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:26,000
having me on again it's always a

796
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:27,280
pleasure to be on here with you

797
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,880
yeah thank you yeah it's the first time

798
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:31,200
i didn't read your bio but uh

799
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:32,880
you know you know why because like that

800
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,440
you read like this old bio anyway

801
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:37,760
yeah totally out of date well you know i

802
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:39,200
wanted to give you something new but

803
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:40,079
yeah

804
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:42,079
no well there's that part and also i'm

805
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:43,200
just lazy

806
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,240
so you know i

807
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:49,200
accept the responsibility for that um

808
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:50,320
let's uh

809
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:53,359
uh let's keep tradition going and uh

810
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:55,359
i'm just gonna ask you you already know

811
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,400
what mine was

812
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,079
what was the last song you listened to

813
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,240
today okay so it's actually i have to

814
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:01,680
give you two answers because the

815
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:05,440
very last music that i was listening to

816
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:06,800
earlier today was some

817
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:09,920
um partitas by johann sebastian bach

818
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,200
whoa whoa i thought you i thought you

819
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:14,800
were going to say nwa

820
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:17,520
but bob no well i have listened to them

821
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,240
no i'm

822
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,720
i'm a very big fan of bach yes and the

823
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:22,640
partitas are

824
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:25,599
kind of mind-blowingly brilliant uh if

825
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,000
you really

826
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:28,320
just sit down and you listen to them i

827
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,240
was sort of quasi listening to them

828
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,800
the last rock song that i listened to

829
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,079
earlier in the day was

830
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:36,000
um by one of my favorite groups of all

831
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:37,440
time the who

832
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:39,119
and it was one of my favorite songs by

833
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:40,480
them the real me

834
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,880
oh man well done is that a great song

835
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:44,400
yeah yeah well played

836
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,920
um i watched uh yesterday

837
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:49,680
i watched a video live at leeds i think

838
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:51,520
it's leads the who

839
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,040
uh won't get fooled again and that that

840
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:58,000
that video performance is so perfect but

841
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,839
that era that you're referring to right

842
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:01,200
there with the who

843
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,200
some of the best ever and my last song

844
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:05,040
today also had the who but it was the

845
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,280
guess who

846
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:09,359
oh yes we had a little chat beforehand

847
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,720
and you mentioned the guests who i'm a

848
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,400
very big fan of them yeah you're

849
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:14,880
a really good group yeah amazing amazing

850
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:15,599
stuff

851
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,599
i needed to escape man i needed to

852
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:19,440
escape and i said to you earlier and i

853
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:20,800
said this to rita

854
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:22,960
i'm i'm in i'm in a weird i'm in a weird

855
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:24,000
place mentally

856
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:27,280
you know and um absorbing

857
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:30,240
all of the news uh trying to stay on top

858
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,359
of things

859
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:33,200
there's not going to be a normal after

860
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,190
i'm going to ask you the funnest

861
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,040
question that i can ask you and we'll

862
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:42,640
get this out of the way first

863
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:45,119
which is you're a student of history

864
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,720
you're a historian

865
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,880
right that's that's what you do richard

866
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,640
in the future

867
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:53,040
what is this chapter of the book going

868
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:55,119
to be like

869
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:57,200
i've actually written about this uh in

870
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:58,640
my very last book and we

871
00:38:01,750 --> 00:38:00,160
chatted about this the last time you had

872
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,760
me on my book is called the alien

873
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:02,960
agendas

874
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,320
but in that book i introduced a theory

875
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,560
of mine i've been really thinking about

876
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,320
this a lot and i

877
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:12,160
firmly believe more now than ever that

878
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:14,560
this is correct and that humanity our

879
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:16,160
entire species is moving into a new

880
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:17,040
stage

881
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:20,160
of existence up until around now

882
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:22,720
human beings have lived in three

883
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:25,040
fundamental forms of living

884
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,640
for hundreds of thousands of years we

885
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:28,000
lived as hunters and gatherers and

886
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:29,200
that's what we did

887
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:32,079
for the longest time then 10 to 15 000

888
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,880
years ago we

889
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,400
developed agriculture and we

890
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,240
domesticated animals that's the

891
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,760
agricultural revolution

892
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,599
that gave us human civilization that

893
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:41,200
gave us ancient egypt that gave us the

894
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:42,640
roman empire that gave us

895
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,520
everything right on through the

896
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:45,760
renaissance and up until the industrial

897
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,800
revolution

898
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,960
when we hit stage three that's the age

899
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:50,640
of science and industry and that's where

900
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,359
we

901
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,599
have lived in and that's a very

902
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:55,839
revolutionary stage but now we are

903
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,280
in my view poised to enter stage four

904
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:01,440
and i haven't really known what i want

905
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,960
to call it for a while i was

906
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:05,280
calling it the transhumanist stage but

907
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,320
i'm not i didn't never

908
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,720
felt that that was quite right um maybe

909
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,480
we could call it the digital stage

910
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,880
um maybe we can call it the surveillance

911
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,160
stage i don't know

912
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:16,640
but but maybe the digital stage but the

913
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,359
fact is we have a lot of

914
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,599
uh technologies coming together it's not

915
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,280
just one technology it's not just

916
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:25,200
strong artificial intelligence it's not

917
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,800
just um

918
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:29,440
5g surveillance tech with smart devices

919
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:31,680
everywhere it's it's that and more

920
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,720
that's uh in my view turning slowly or

921
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,240
not so slowly turning the human race

922
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,000
into one big ant hill

923
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:40,320
and so what we're seeing is a very

924
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:41,280
substantial

925
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:44,480
fundamental transformation

926
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:47,599
of the foundations of our society and

927
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:49,040
indeed of our

928
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,880
ultimately perhaps even our biology but

929
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:53,040
right now our social organization is

930
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,800
being radically changed

931
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,880
um and what we're seeing then is like

932
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:59,040
all of these

933
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:00,800
other conflicts that are happening like

934
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:02,720
everything in this last year from

935
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,240
the even the virus and the lockdowns and

936
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,880
the craziness that happened last summer

937
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:10,240
those riots

938
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:13,599
um the election cycle and uh this now

939
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:15,920
this disputed election like all of this

940
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,480
in my view are symptoms of this

941
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:20,079
transformation where

942
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:21,599
you've got a certain percentage of the

943
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:24,000
people that are promote or pushing

944
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:27,119
this new era and there are those who are

945
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,640
resisting it and i think that's really

946
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:30,560
what we're looking at

947
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:33,119
did it happen too fast we didn't

948
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:34,400
understand

949
00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:37,599
uh what the implications would be or the

950
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,079
impact

951
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,200
on culture and emotions in our children

952
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:43,119
i think we have no no understanding

953
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:44,800
right no i mean when do people

954
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:47,440
have foresight into the new ventures

955
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,960
that they engage in i just

956
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:51,040
i think you know we just ran headlong

957
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:52,880
into the age of the internet

958
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,880
uh you know 20 years ago we all thought

959
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:56,480
oh the internet's the world of freedom

960
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,960
it's

961
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:59,040
it gives everyone opportunity we can

962
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:00,160
tear the walls down

963
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:02,720
of oppression and authoritarianism and

964
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:04,480
what we are now seeing of course is that

965
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:05,760
those very forces

966
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,359
are using the internet um in the exact

967
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,280
opposite way that we had all

968
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:13,200
hoped and dreamed and wanted uh one

969
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:14,640
generation ago

970
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:18,160
when um and how my view has changed

971
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:21,359
you know but if you go back to 1995 and

972
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:22,319
i'm in a

973
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:25,520
chat room or whatever on aol or some

974
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:26,240
platform

975
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,160
and i'm talking to somebody in

976
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,960
germany making friend you know what i

977
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:34,400
mean i thought man that is just that's

978
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:35,280
insane

979
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:38,800
it was amazing it is amazing it was it

980
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:42,319
made the world so much smaller and

981
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:45,760
and i just thought to myself uh

982
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:48,960
this type of freedom and which was

983
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:51,680
being spoken about from the creators of

984
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,160
this

985
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,079
here in northern california in silicon

986
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:56,240
valley where

987
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:58,720
the the creators of the internet were

988
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:01,280
like the punk rock guitarist

989
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:03,520
right they were rebels man they were

990
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,599
thinking outside of the box and freedom

991
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:07,359
and information and

992
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:10,480
and and all of that and well that was

993
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:11,119
also

994
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:14,880
fueling their income like that ideology

995
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:17,760
worked very well for lining their

996
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:18,560
pockets and making

997
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,800
and making profit well certainly yeah

998
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:22,319
that's right you know there was the you

999
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,160
know it was one thing to create it

1000
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,839
and then next was okay now we got to

1001
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:27,359
monetize this monster

1002
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:29,920
right they certainly figured that out is

1003
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:30,640
that really

1004
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,480
in the last decade uh we've seen a very

1005
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,400
definite like the empire strikes back

1006
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,560
scenario and what has happened is that

1007
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,720
um you know you could almost argue that

1008
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:41,839
those people at

1009
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,839
the top of our food chain said there

1010
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,520
okay this is too much freedom

1011
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,960
and we've got to scale this back we've

1012
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,240
got to turn this a little bit back into

1013
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:50,000
the 1980s again

1014
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,839
um and put everything back on you know

1015
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,359
network television and watching

1016
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:56,160
reruns of full house or whatever so they

1017
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:57,119
essentially

1018
00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,160
you saw the curtain coming down

1019
00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:01,920
slowly at first and in the last five

1020
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:04,160
years really even before trump hit the

1021
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:05,440
scene

1022
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:08,480
we started seeing a real rollback

1023
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,599
of freedom i mean even this uh

1024
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:13,839
one of the things that i actually hate

1025
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:14,800
are hate speech

1026
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,960
laws and you know we started seeing them

1027
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,319
we don't have them officially in the

1028
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:21,839
united states but they are officially in

1029
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,720
other countries and they are

1030
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,640
unofficially in the united states

1031
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:26,240
and i think that the concept of hate

1032
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:28,000
speech is absolutely pernicious and

1033
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:29,359
should just be erased

1034
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:32,079
it won't be erased it's here to stay but

1035
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:32,880
um

1036
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,520
i grew up and you grew up and probably

1037
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:36,960
any listener who's

1038
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:40,000
over the age of 35 even grew up in an

1039
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:41,200
environment where

1040
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:43,839
freedom of speech was a given it was

1041
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,680
assumed

1042
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:47,520
not simply birthright as an american but

1043
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:49,359
your birthright as as a person in the

1044
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:50,800
western world

1045
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:54,000
we assumed that you know

1046
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:57,599
our society thrived when diversities of

1047
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:58,480
opinions

1048
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,839
were able to be expressed because that's

1049
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:01,440
how we learn from each other and that's

1050
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:02,720
always been the foundation

1051
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,680
and what we have seen is a concerted

1052
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,720
roll back

1053
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:09,040
of the principles of freedom of speech

1054
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,839
and you know

1055
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:12,079
all of these uh pretexts have been

1056
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:13,599
employed to

1057
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:16,720
promote that so hate speech being a very

1058
00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:17,920
popular one and

1059
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,040
now what we're seeing is combating

1060
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:21,599
misinformation

1061
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:23,200
oh well we can't let people have

1062
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:24,800
misinformation

1063
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,839
and now we're at the point where twitter

1064
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:30,480
twitter has banned the president of the

1065
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:31,359
united

1066
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:35,200
states permanently and

1067
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,599
you have amazon taking down parlor i i

1068
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:39,359
listened to you talking about parlor

1069
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,760
i think the big story about parlor uh

1070
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:43,680
secondarily is the hack primarily it's

1071
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,040
the fact that amazon pulled the rug

1072
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:48,400
from out under them um so what we're

1073
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:49,040
seeing

1074
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,640
and and that's only the tip of the

1075
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:52,880
iceberg we're seeing a

1076
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,800
a concerted um effort against freedom of

1077
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:57,680
speech

1078
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:00,720
on the basis of yes combating hate

1079
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,760
speech but combating

1080
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:03,520
misinformation we hear this more and

1081
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,720
more and i think that's a very

1082
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:06,400
pernicious trend

1083
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:11,040
i i had said and it's not about me

1084
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:14,319
but i certainly put it out there because

1085
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:15,520
i got a weird vibe

1086
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:19,280
like seven seven years ago six years ago

1087
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:23,040
about twitter um in that

1088
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,319
celebrities this was my take a celebrity

1089
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:29,040
with five or ten million followers

1090
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:32,640
can change the course and emotion of

1091
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,440
you know potentially 10 million people

1092
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:37,599
in a nanosecond

1093
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:41,200
and and that ability is a powerful tool

1094
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,400
and it's it is we're talking about

1095
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:46,000
thousands of now they call them

1096
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,240
influencers right but right

1097
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,960
these thousands of people that now have

1098
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:52,400
this megalo

1099
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:55,119
maniac type of thing where they know

1100
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:56,880
that they can say

1101
00:46:01,750 --> 00:46:00,240
in in a moment cheddar cheese will kill

1102
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:01,760
you

1103
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,520
and and and wipe out the cheddar cheese

1104
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:05,839
market in a second right

1105
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,000
we have we have zero education we've got

1106
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,240
a nation of very uneducated people so

1107
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:12,160
that's how that can happen that wasn't

1108
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:13,359
supposed to be the case

1109
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,880
with the internet with freedom of speech

1110
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,800
we were supposed to have better

1111
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:18,960
education and a smarter populace

1112
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:21,119
and so people can be i don't know by

1113
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,240
cheddar cheese but

1114
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:25,280
i get your point yes you know it's easy

1115
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:26,960
to manipulate the public

1116
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:30,000
and in fact i i would argue that the

1117
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:31,119
general

1118
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:32,800
level of knowledge of the population has

1119
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:34,160
gone down not up over the last

1120
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:35,200
generation

1121
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,560
now when uh when this starts to become

1122
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,560
visible where you start to see the

1123
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:42,240
ability to

1124
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,200
uh develop into a cancel culture you

1125
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,280
know and the power to

1126
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:49,680
uh manipulate in nanoseconds by the way

1127
00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:51,920
this happens at the speed of light

1128
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,599
where if you go back and you're a

1129
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:54,960
student of history

1130
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,079
in the old days you had to print on an

1131
00:47:01,109 --> 00:47:00,480
old printing press and get a flyer out

1132
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,119
and your

1133
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:04,079
message no matter how important it was

1134
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:04,480
took

1135
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:07,760
months to go a couple of blocks

1136
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:10,960
a couple of blocks right and and to get

1137
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:11,200
it

1138
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:14,640
movement

1139
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:17,839
today it's the speed of light

1140
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,800
and people now know and there was

1141
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,040
certainly those with uh

1142
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:25,040
not necessarily your best intentions in

1143
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,559
mind they know

1144
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,800
and understand the power of social media

1145
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,240
and what the internet is today

1146
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:32,319
well it sounds like you're i mean i'm

1147
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,839
not going to accuse you of this but it

1148
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,280
sounds like you're

1149
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:37,520
perhaps justifying the need to crack

1150
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:39,040
down on some of the

1151
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:41,760
liberties of social media no not at all

1152
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,000
no no what i'm saying is

1153
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:46,319
because this ability now to change

1154
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,160
emotions that quick if somebody

1155
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,800
wants to do something screwed up they

1156
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:52,400
now know that they can do this and they

1157
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,079
know how to propagate it

1158
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:56,079
they know how to get the shares going

1159
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:57,599
and the likes and the the

1160
00:48:00,710 --> 00:48:00,079
retweets and the comments and the next

1161
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:00,720
thing you know

1162
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:04,000
what i'll go straight back to the fake

1163
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:05,920
news phenomenon that happened five years

1164
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:06,720
ago

1165
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,680
and when that no you find out that it's

1166
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:11,839
just a bunch of kids in macedonia that

1167
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:12,960
want to make some money

1168
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:15,839
right that's all the real fake news has

1169
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:17,200
always been established in corporate

1170
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,400
news

1171
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:20,400
always well and we can definitely get

1172
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:21,760
into uh

1173
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,000
operation mockingbird and what it you

1174
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:25,920
know and what that really is

1175
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:29,680
um but now here we are today

1176
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:32,720
isn't it isn't things

1177
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:35,599
aren't they moving too fast or is it is

1178
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:37,520
it gotten to a point where we can't

1179
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,040
really put the car in park

1180
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:42,480
let alone well attack on on individual

1181
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,440
liberties is definitely moving too fast

1182
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:47,200
that is that is definitely the number

1183
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:48,720
one thing that concerns me

1184
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,400
personally is looking at this trend

1185
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:54,800
the the fact that our civilization is

1186
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:56,160
moving

1187
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:59,040
into this new stage which i do consider

1188
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:00,640
that the next stage of humanity

1189
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,880
it's happening fast and i don't i don't

1190
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,640
see how it's even possible to slow it

1191
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:06,079
down i mean

1192
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:09,440
uh it's got its own momentum in so many

1193
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,240
different

1194
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:13,440
ways and areas that uh i mean ask

1195
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:14,480
i don't know if there's any single

1196
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,760
person on this planet who really knows

1197
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:17,280
how to slow it down

1198
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:19,520
and i mean unplug the internet perhaps

1199
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:20,880
right right

1200
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:23,119
and then we have you know corporate

1201
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:23,920
greed

1202
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,079
which is definitely paramount in all of

1203
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:28,319
this chan you know follow the money

1204
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:31,599
is this the most valuable thing on this

1205
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:32,559
planet right now

1206
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:36,160
isn't gold it's data

1207
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:39,359
right data is the most valuable

1208
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,920
commodity that is bought and sold right

1209
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:42,880
now today

1210
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,680
at t doesn't make money off their phones

1211
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:47,599
they make money off of selling your

1212
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:51,119
data right that is a crazy situation

1213
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:52,400
that we find ourselves in

1214
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:55,680
and all companies are in on the game

1215
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,839
and that that data is about individual

1216
00:50:02,630 --> 00:49:59,520
human beings

1217
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,640
so that's what is very valuable and

1218
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,160
actually i mean i don't want to get too

1219
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,480
far afield here but

1220
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:08,240
you are exactly right about data being

1221
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:10,079
the most valuable and important thing

1222
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:11,359
if you want to look at the development

1223
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:13,040
of strong artificial intelligence what's

1224
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,640
called generative ai

1225
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:16,240
you know artificial intelligence i can

1226
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,640
think for itself

1227
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,800
what it requires more than anything else

1228
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:22,480
is massive amounts of data

1229
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:25,119
so that's why uh 5g networks that are

1230
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,400
coming into place with all the smart

1231
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:27,920
devices like your smart toaster

1232
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,880
which will talk to your smart

1233
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:30,720
refrigerator and your smart toilet so

1234
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:32,240
that they know what you're eating

1235
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,559
uh you know and what's going through

1236
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:36,319
your system

1237
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:38,960
but all of that data it's massive

1238
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:40,240
amounts of data that's going to flow

1239
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:41,599
through 5g

1240
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:45,040
and ai algorithms require

1241
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,480
huge amounts of data and that's what

1242
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:48,319
makes them smart and that's what will

1243
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:49,839
actually probably put them over into the

1244
00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:50,800
tipping point

1245
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:52,839
of what the ai people call the

1246
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,160
singularity now

1247
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:56,160
so we're moving fast toward that as well

1248
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,520
and the

1249
00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:00,720
the speed of when we consider what went

1250
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:02,640
down in 2020

1251
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,839
which is so much bad news right there's

1252
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:07,599
just so many different directions to go

1253
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:08,079
in

1254
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:11,520
but uh we are only on

1255
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:15,280
the 11th of january in 2021

1256
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:18,800
11 days have passed by in 2021

1257
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:22,079
and the news has been piled up

1258
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,839
so much on everybody in the world

1259
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,839
right this has got to be starting to

1260
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:29,599
cause some real stress

1261
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:32,319
as if 2020 wasn't bad enough for

1262
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:33,200
everybody

1263
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:34,960
people were thinking oh as long as we

1264
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,559
get 2020 behind us we'll be back to

1265
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:38,079
normal and of course

1266
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,400
no no i honestly i think of january 6th

1267
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,319
you know of the capitol riot as uh the

1268
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:46,720
final day of 2020. like to me

1269
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,079
that's the perfect capstone to

1270
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:52,880
this god-awful year that we all just

1271
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:54,960
have gone through i had that same exact

1272
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:55,520
thought

1273
00:52:02,230 --> 00:51:59,040
i i swear that you know what this

1274
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:02,240
this was the true end um on on january

1275
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:02,960
6th

1276
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:06,160
now with um let's

1277
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:09,200
as a historian take me through

1278
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:12,640
what went through your mind as

1279
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:15,520
january 6 started to unfold i can tell

1280
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:16,880
you this richard

1281
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:20,319
i was in my bedroom watching

1282
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:22,640
the news which i never do i never do it

1283
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,240
i thought well january 6

1284
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:26,640
this is going down so let's see how this

1285
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,559
plays out okay we've got

1286
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,480
uh so many things that could happen

1287
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,960
today so let's watch that

1288
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,400
and then everything else happened about

1289
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:36,800
an hour later what went through your

1290
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:37,359
mind

1291
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,160
as it started to unfold i was actually

1292
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:42,319
working at my desk i was in a quiet

1293
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:42,880
space

1294
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:46,240
my sister in spain messaged me and said

1295
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:47,520
you've got to watch what's going on and

1296
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,400
so i

1297
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:51,040
i i didn't watch anything live i looked

1298
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:52,800
at news articles

1299
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:55,760
i don't like to react to um current

1300
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,960
things that are happening because i

1301
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:58,800
don't like to get caught up

1302
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:00,640
into the craziness and the emotions

1303
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:03,040
which and particularly anything that's

1304
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:06,240
covered in establishment news i've i

1305
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:06,720
just

1306
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:10,240
never ever trust ever but you know i got

1307
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,119
up to speed on what was happening and

1308
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,200
the thing that i will say we're walking

1309
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,280
in very tricky ground here because

1310
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:19,440
look i mean i just want to say this so

1311
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:21,680
i've i'm people know me primarily as a

1312
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,839
guy who's writes about ufos

1313
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,440
but they if they follow me at all they

1314
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:26,960
also know that i've studied politics and

1315
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,000
geopolitics

1316
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:30,000
my entire life and that's very much in

1317
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:31,280
my dna also

1318
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:35,520
but when i speak to people who follow me

1319
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:38,240
you know for most of the time in my

1320
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:38,960
public life

1321
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:41,280
i've been able to do that without

1322
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:43,119
triggering one side of the political

1323
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,720
divide or the other

1324
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:46,800
and i've i've done i think a pretty good

1325
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,760
job at like

1326
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,280
for people not even knowing what my

1327
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:51,359
personal politics are

1328
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,720
in the last five years that's almost

1329
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:54,400
been impossible so

1330
00:54:01,829 --> 00:53:58,960
it's um it's it concerns me because

1331
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:01,839
i continue to try to speak to people on

1332
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:03,359
the left and on the right

1333
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:05,920
and that is important to me um but what

1334
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,400
we've

1335
00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:08,480
gone into in this world is a situation

1336
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:09,680
where people on the left and on the

1337
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:10,000
right

1338
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:12,079
are not they it's not even that they're

1339
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:13,440
not listening it's like they

1340
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:16,640
can't hear each other and for the record

1341
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:17,119
i

1342
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,559
pretty much every day

1343
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:26,240
and that doesn't mean that i agree with

1344
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:27,599
all of them i don't but i

1345
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,480
it's important for me to understand them

1346
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:31,920
like that's the thing

1347
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:35,280
i want to understand why people

1348
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,720
might think differently from me because

1349
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,960
i will i can learn from them

1350
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,640
that's the whole point it can be

1351
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:42,480
uncomfortable at first when we encounter

1352
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:43,520
those opinions but

1353
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:45,760
it's very important but anyway back to

1354
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:47,839
january 6th so

1355
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:52,880
uh what i will say is i i have listened

1356
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,079
to arguments on both sides of this

1357
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,920
i have listened to people who have said

1358
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,599
that this is like an insurrection it's

1359
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,680
comparable to 911.

1360
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:03,760
okay i'm like no it's not comparable to

1361
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:07,280
911. let's not go there i remember 9 11.

1362
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:09,920
you remember 9 11. this is not 9 11. so

1363
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:12,160
don't try to tell me it is

1364
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:15,440
um but but you know they're calling it

1365
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,559
riot insurrection and i will just say

1366
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:20,480
any time that there is physical violence

1367
00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:22,799
going on anywhere whether it's in dc

1368
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,640
or in portland this summer or in my

1369
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:27,040
neighborhood three houses from my house

1370
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:29,200
where the local walgreen was twice

1371
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:30,720
looted and had its windows shot out

1372
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:32,720
during the summer riots

1373
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:35,119
scared the hell out of me um anytime

1374
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,720
that there's physical violence i don't

1375
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:38,400
like it and i do not like the fact that

1376
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,680
there was violence

1377
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,200
at the capitol on january 6 was

1378
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:43,200
absolutely

1379
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,280
uncalled for so that's that is a problem

1380
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:49,200
on the right i've listened to people who

1381
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:50,480
have said and i don't know what their

1382
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:51,760
evidence is and they could be totally

1383
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:53,200
wrong but i hear people talking

1384
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:56,720
this is a false flag why did the police

1385
00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:58,400
allow the rioters

1386
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:01,920
up so easily what's going on there the

1387
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:04,319
fact is i don't know the full story

1388
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:07,119
i don't know if any of us really does so

1389
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:09,040
i don't want to make a judgment

1390
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,880
on anything that happened that day what

1391
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:15,119
i'm more concerned about is the reaction

1392
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,319
to it

1393
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,480
and to me the reaction is what scares

1394
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:20,079
the hell out of me more than anything

1395
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:20,880
else

1396
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:24,000
um we're seeing draconian measures

1397
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:27,520
on the scale of what we saw after 9 11.

1398
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:31,359
and this this was no 9 11.

1399
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:33,440
so we have president-elect biden now

1400
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:34,799
talking about introdu one of the first

1401
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:36,000
things i think he plans to do is

1402
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:36,799
introduce

1403
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:40,319
domestic anti-terrorism legislation

1404
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:43,040
uh we don't need domestic anti-terrorism

1405
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:44,480
legislation like the laws are on the

1406
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:45,440
books already

1407
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:48,000
but this is going to be a roll out that

1408
00:57:04,470 --> 00:56:49,040
i

1409
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,480
want that and

1410
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:06,559
no one's going to persuade me against

1411
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:08,079
the principles of free speech and what

1412
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we're seeing

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00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:11,520
the attack on parlor by amazon

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00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,799
particularly

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00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:14,880
um and even you know de-platforming

1416
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:17,520
trump i strongly disagree with these

1417
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:20,720
you can hate trump all you want but the

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00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,400
man's the president of the united states

1419
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:24,160
and when you take the platform away from

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00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:26,240
the president of the united states

1421
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,599
you can take it away from anyone and

1422
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:29,040
they are taking it away from anyone

1423
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:31,040
thousands and thousands of people

1424
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:34,960
so and when you give an opposition

1425
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:38,480
no place to express their descent

1426
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:39,760
you're putting them into a corner and

1427
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:42,319
you're making things worse not better

1428
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:45,200
you're you've got to give people a valve

1429
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,480
for being able to

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00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:48,640
express themselves legitimately that

1431
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,920
doesn't that doesn't mean

1432
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:51,839
you have the right to incite violence

1433
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,079
but i just have to say the definition

1434
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:56,400
of inciting violence has become very

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slippery

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00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:01,280
and we really need to be very careful

1437
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:03,359
about how we are defining this

1438
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,960
so i'm uncomfortable with all of these

1439
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:06,640
tendencies that are going on right now

1440
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:08,160
and um

1441
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:09,920
i do not see an end to it i think we're

1442
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:12,799
going to see a great escalation of this

1443
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:16,640
from this point onward yeah i've uh

1444
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:19,359
uh i agree with everything that you just

1445
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:21,520
said and i think most people do

1446
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,880
um i don't know

1447
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,319
i think a lot of people don't agree i

1448
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:28,480
think a lot of people are very happy

1449
00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:31,760
with what's going on well okay okay okay

1450
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:33,359
well this goes back to your statement

1451
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:34,079
i've got

1452
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:36,559
four 30 seconds it goes back to your

1453
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:37,440
statement earlier

1454
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:40,480
that no matter what you and i say right

1455
00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:41,359
now

1456
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:43,119
this is what you were you you didn't get

1457
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:45,680
to close your statement

1458
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:48,160
which is no matter what half are going

1459
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:49,040
to be happy

1460
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:52,000
half or not that's right and and and so

1461
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:53,040
i'll just finish your

1462
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,880
your your sentence for you back then

1463
00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:56,480
yeah and which is

1464
00:59:00,950 --> 00:59:00,079
they're they're it's such a slippery

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00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,960
slope

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00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:02,720
in that even with fade to black i put

1467
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:04,799
down the law no politics on the show i

1468
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:05,680
have a no

1469
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:08,240
politics thing conspiracy of politics

1470
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:09,920
i'm game

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00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:12,960
politics except half of my audience is

1472
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:14,880
one way half is the other

1473
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:17,040
and it has no room to be discussed on

1474
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,880
the show so then i get the audience

1475
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:20,880
openly fighting with each other

1476
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:23,440
no yeah i get that as well with my my

1477
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,400
group

1478
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:26,319
yeah you talk artists in politics and

1479
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:27,920
that that is something that i try to

1480
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:28,880
avoid as well

1481
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:31,520
my i have friends that i have known just

1482
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:32,000
like you

1483
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,799
for 30 40 years it's like i don't even

1484
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:36,400
know them anymore

1485
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,880
and yeah and and it's not that it's not

1486
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:40,799
it is the partisan politics kind of

1487
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:42,319
thing but it's that

1488
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:44,960
nobody wants to listen to anybody else

1489
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:45,359
that's

1490
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,960
it's like how do we get here this

1491
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:48,720
country was based on people being

1492
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:49,839
different

1493
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:52,559
right that was what was so great and and

1494
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:53,839
we've lost sight of that

1495
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:56,640
it's not about unity everybody can be

1496
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:58,240
different but we always found a way to

1497
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,000
debate and meet somewhere in

1498
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:02,559
the middle and nobody wants to hear that

1499
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:04,079
now let's take our break we got to take

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01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:05,359
a break right here richard this

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is fade to black i am your host jimmy

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church tonight richard dolan

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we're discussing everything that has

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gone down in the last week it is crazy

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but

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it's also the future where are we headed

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all of that and much more with richard

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when we come back i'm real jimmy church

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church i got to put my game face

1640
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,000
back on i'm watching richard

1641
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:52,799
dance in his studio he loves the bumper

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music here this is faded black i'm

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murals jimmy church tonight richard

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01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:56,799
dolan

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01:06:02,549 --> 01:05:59,839
tomorrow night greg housh is here and

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wednesday night john greenwald an

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amazing week of programming coming up

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and of course thursday night is fader

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night with open lines all night long

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and now let's uh let's dip our toes back

1651
01:06:15,829 --> 01:06:12,640
in the water richard in that

1652
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:15,839
uh we know and the audience knows

1653
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:18,559
that no matter what we do in this

1654
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:19,760
conversation

1655
01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:22,079
we're going to have half one way half

1656
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:23,359
the other maybe some will meet in the

1657
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:24,160
middle

1658
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:26,240
but the thing is that i want to express

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to everybody is

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no matter what the conversation is we're

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here to just learn and try to figure

1662
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:31,200
things out

1663
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:34,240
the country is damaged right now

1664
01:06:38,470 --> 01:06:36,000
that includes this audience includes me

1665
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:38,480
includes you richard i mean we are all

1666
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affected by this

1667
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and then we have um

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uh i'm gonna i'm gonna lay this out

1669
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we have a situation where i know

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that me personally on social media

1671
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i've signed a terms of service i've

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agreed

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two things and i must play in

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bounds if i play out of bounds i'm going

1675
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:04,079
to get a warning which i've

1676
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i've had those if i do it too many times

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i could lose my account okay which has

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happened to me too as well with uh

1679
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youtube

1680
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well let me just say this yeah with we

1681
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just mentioned the dramatic

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probably completely overplayed move by

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twitter

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01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:25,119
uh by uh completely

1685
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:27,520
removing uh president trump and his

1686
01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:29,200
personal account the potus account is

1687
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:30,400
still active but

1688
01:07:34,069 --> 01:07:33,119
the real donald trump account twitter's

1689
01:07:37,270 --> 01:07:34,079
going to say

1690
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:37,280
hey we warned him we gave him the

1691
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,319
longest leash

1692
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:41,280
possible for months we labeled his

1693
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:42,559
tweets

1694
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,599
um he knew that this was a possibility

1695
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:47,760
and we warned him and we did that

1696
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:48,880
because he was the president of the

1697
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:50,079
united states if it would have been

1698
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:50,880
anybody else

1699
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:52,240
he would have been off the platform a

1700
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:54,000
long time ago that is

1701
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:57,520
twitter's position here it it it's not

1702
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:57,920
really

1703
01:08:01,990 --> 01:08:00,559
acceptable is it no it's a completely

1704
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:02,000
false position

1705
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:04,720
i mean twitter you know famously locked

1706
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:06,240
out the new york post from its hunter

1707
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:07,039
biden

1708
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,000
story in the lead up to the election a

1709
01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:12,160
completely legit story

1710
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:14,000
that was sourced properly it was not

1711
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:15,599
hacked as twitter

1712
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:17,839
as people had claimed and it had an

1713
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:19,839
effect on the election was no question

1714
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:20,480
about it

1715
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,719
they were clearly acting on behalf of

1716
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:27,120
one side of the political argument

1717
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:28,960
well and you know what i i'm glad you

1718
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:30,239
brought that up i never talked about

1719
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:31,920
this you can't pretend to be bot to

1720
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:34,960
be unbiased right right right and uh

1721
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:36,319
i never talk about this stuff on the

1722
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,600
show so everybody's going to hear me

1723
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:39,359
speak about this for the first time

1724
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:42,719
if we go back to the hunter biden

1725
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:47,600
story um that was the lead story on fox

1726
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:49,759
for quite a while all day long

1727
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:50,880
programming

1728
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:54,319
and then tucker carlson announces on fox

1729
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,400
you know what hunter's a friend of mine

1730
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:58,080
i'm not going to damage him

1731
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:01,199
when just the day before he said ups

1732
01:09:03,749 --> 01:09:03,040
lost the package i got the dump i got

1733
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:03,759
the thing and

1734
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,600
yeah they if they lost the package and

1735
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,960
i'm going to reveal this when i finally

1736
01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:08,239
get it i'm going to bring you all the

1737
01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:08,719
data

1738
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:10,480
that's going to blow hunter and then the

1739
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:12,960
next day tucker says hey

1740
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:15,839
you know what uh i'm going to let the

1741
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:17,120
story die where it is

1742
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:19,040
i'm not going to talk about it anymore

1743
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:20,480
it was

1744
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:24,319
non grata on on fox

1745
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:26,159
but the point is that what twitter did

1746
01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:27,359
was egregious

1747
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:29,679
but in fact supported by facebook as

1748
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:30,719
well yeah

1749
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:34,640
why they stopped the reportage

1750
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:36,560
one of the oldest that's alexander

1751
01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:37,679
hamilton's newspaper

1752
01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:42,159
yes and they just

1753
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:43,920
blocked it i mean it was it was

1754
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:45,759
ridiculous but back to

1755
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:51,990
trump is hard to categorize because he's

1756
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:53,679
not like any politician that we've ever

1757
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:54,960
had

1758
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:58,800
and you know there are legitimate

1759
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,960
ultra legitimate gripes that people on

1760
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:02,560
the left and right can have about donald

1761
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:03,679
trump

1762
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:05,360
not not just people on the left there's

1763
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:07,040
like a lot of things one can say about

1764
01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:07,840
donald trump

1765
01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:11,199
that are legit criticisms um

1766
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:13,520
and his use of twitter is legendary and

1767
01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:14,960
you know that's what he does

1768
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:17,679
and he shoots from the hip more than any

1769
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:18,880
other politician that

1770
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:22,320
i've ever known in american history

1771
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:23,600
so he says a lot of things that are

1772
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:25,760
incendiary that is true

1773
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:28,800
and he's going to have followers who are

1774
01:10:32,070 --> 01:10:30,159
going to take his words and they're

1775
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:32,080
going to do things with them that he

1776
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:35,840
may or may not have intended but to hold

1777
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:37,440
a public person accountable to the

1778
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:38,880
actions of people who follow them that's

1779
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,880
a very dangerous thing too

1780
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:42,960
like there there's there are legitimate

1781
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:44,400
reasons to do it but there are also

1782
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:47,360
non-legitimate reasons um and it's not

1783
01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:48,400
about trump

1784
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:51,520
let me let me make this clear um i

1785
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:54,560
i i could give a uh i'm gonna say the

1786
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:55,760
wrong things here

1787
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:58,400
about him personally i don't care it's

1788
01:11:03,110 --> 01:10:59,520
the american public

1789
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:03,120
that is the victim here and inflating

1790
01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:03,679
and

1791
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:06,880
throwing gas on this fire is just the

1792
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:07,760
wrong move

1793
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,440
and and you don't want to go down that

1794
01:11:15,350 --> 01:11:11,440
road the other part of it

1795
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:15,360
is that um twitter

1796
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:19,120
is not the only one it's facebook has

1797
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:20,640
canceled trump

1798
01:11:32,229 --> 01:11:28,800
services has cut off his money

1799
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:32,239
and as of yesterday pinterest

1800
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:35,280
right wait a minute pinterest

1801
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:37,520
so that means donald trump can no longer

1802
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:38,800
post his

1803
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:41,760
glitter coffee cup pictures right or

1804
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:42,560
whatever

1805
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:44,560
his rustic kitchen in the white house

1806
01:11:47,669 --> 01:11:45,679
not only that like

1807
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:47,679
i mean there had been talk even after he

1808
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:49,040
lost the election that he would run in

1809
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:50,080
2024.

1810
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:52,320
yeah that was widely discussed how the

1811
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:53,520
heck is he gonna do that

1812
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:55,679
now i think he's been completely

1813
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:56,560
kneecapped

1814
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:59,199
um and you know he did a lot of really

1815
01:12:01,990 --> 01:11:59,679
dumb

1816
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:02,000
things in the lead up to everything that

1817
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,920
happened on january 6 i'm not absolving

1818
01:12:07,910 --> 01:12:05,120
him

1819
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:07,920
but they you know the actions of this is

1820
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:09,199
all big tech

1821
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:11,760
i mean look this is no secret they've

1822
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:13,360
had it in for him since 26

1823
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:16,400
2015. yeah okay i mean we all know this

1824
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:18,159
so let's not kid ourselves so this has

1825
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:19,840
been a long-standing

1826
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:22,640
war that's been going on and this is

1827
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:23,920
really the final

1828
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:25,760
final end game of that war it seems like

1829
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,840
i think they've they've blocked trump

1830
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,760
i think he'll be effectively prevented

1831
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,440
from doing any kind of political run if

1832
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:33,440
he wanted to do that in 2024

1833
01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:35,679
i think he's going to be that's a major

1834
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:37,360
uphill battle at this point whereas it

1835
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:39,120
would not have been

1836
01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:41,280
if all of this had just not happened

1837
01:12:46,510 --> 01:12:43,440
somehow well i had

1838
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:46,520
and this is again i i the comparisons to

1839
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:47,760
1984

1840
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:50,480
uh i think are are starting to get off

1841
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:51,600
base here

1842
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:55,840
but i'll say this i had just

1843
01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:58,640
on two different networks two competing

1844
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,159
networks

1845
01:13:04,149 --> 01:13:02,400
both say the same thing where's

1846
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:04,159
president trump and nobody's heard from

1847
01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:05,120
him

1848
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:07,840
and i'm like what what's your favorite

1849
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:08,800
working

1850
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:11,280
where can he speak from what can he do

1851
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:12,560
all the avenues

1852
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:15,760
have been completely shut down i

1853
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:18,480
i don't know the alternative okay can

1854
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:19,199
can he go

1855
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:21,679
live on television from the oval office

1856
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,960
i suppose

1857
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,560
but all the social networks will cover

1858
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:26,640
him you know he's done some speeches and

1859
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:27,840
the networks have

1860
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,640
refused to cover him clipped it i don't

1861
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:32,800
know he probably wouldn't be able to

1862
01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:35,360
and uh a press conference at this point

1863
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:36,080
you know i

1864
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:39,040
i i just don't see they they have

1865
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:40,560
they've cut him off from just about

1866
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:42,560
every avenue there is so of course we

1867
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,760
haven't heard from him

1868
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,199
he doesn't have a platform to go and

1869
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,960
speak on

1870
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:49,199
well you can still pardon julian assange

1871
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:50,800
if anyone's listening

1872
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:52,239
that would be a good thing edward

1873
01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:54,320
snowden snowden yeah

1874
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:56,719
i would favor that for sure now that is

1875
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,840
uh something else i

1876
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:59,040
don't it doesn't look like he's going to

1877
01:14:01,910 --> 01:14:00,640
do it maybe maybe he'll pull a rabbit

1878
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:01,920
out of his hat before he leaves the

1879
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:03,600
office but um

1880
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:06,719
doesn't look like it now when when you

1881
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:09,920
have um uh you know a company like

1882
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,040
stripe

1883
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:13,600
which literally if you are an e-business

1884
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:15,679
or e-commerce anywhere on the known

1885
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,560
universe

1886
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:19,600
you use stripe for your for your

1887
01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:20,719
merchant services

1888
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,159
right that's right and uh for that

1889
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:26,400
all the way over to pinterest which is

1890
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:27,280
confusing

1891
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:30,640
uh to me but shopify right

1892
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:33,520
oh all of this mercantile side of the is

1893
01:14:37,750 --> 01:14:34,480
this

1894
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:37,760
coordinated right do we have the ceos

1895
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:39,600
of these different companies on a zoom

1896
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:41,679
call yeah i think so i mean that's what

1897
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:43,120
happened to alex jones a couple of years

1898
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:43,760
ago

1899
01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:45,440
it was like boom boom boom boom boom all

1900
01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:46,880
at once

1901
01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:50,320
um i think there has to be coordination

1902
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:53,600
there can't not be coordination

1903
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,760
so um you know that you don't require

1904
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:57,600
that many corporations

1905
01:15:00,870 --> 01:15:00,000
uh obviously you know mark zuckerberg

1906
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:00,880
and jack dorsey

1907
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:03,440
have to know each other exceedingly well

1908
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:04,480
i'm sure they

1909
01:15:10,310 --> 01:15:07,600
they're they talk all the time and so

1910
01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:10,320
how difficult is it for them to have a

1911
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:13,199
phone call and make a decision

1912
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:15,120
i got an idea and everyone else does all

1913
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:17,199
right right um

1914
01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:21,440
there was uh now there's a situation

1915
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:23,040
that is very similar to all of this you

1916
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:24,719
brought up alex jones but that is

1917
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:28,239
uh david ike and david ike

1918
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:31,280
who i know personally i mean i know i've

1919
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:33,679
hung out with he's a cool guy

1920
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:36,960
and whether you approve or

1921
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:39,920
disapprove of his views or his opinions

1922
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:41,760
uh that's that's one thing i've had him

1923
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:42,400
on the show

1924
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:46,000
numerous times last year um

1925
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:49,679
this group published a letter and sent

1926
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:51,520
it out to all of the tech companies

1927
01:15:56,229 --> 01:15:54,880
uh for them to ban david ike and in that

1928
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:56,239
letter

1929
01:16:01,110 --> 01:15:59,440
is me right and they they list

1930
01:16:02,630 --> 01:16:01,120
and i'm reading the letter and it's all

1931
01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:02,640
over the internet i'm like freaking out

1932
01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:04,320
i call them now i'm calling i'm like oh

1933
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:05,120
my

1934
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:06,560
you know and and i'm reading it says

1935
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:08,400
right there and they listed like six

1936
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,440
different supporters of

1937
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,400
the uh that are part of the david ike

1938
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:16,800
network and it was right there

1939
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:18,880
right right and i thought okay here it

1940
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:20,320
comes right

1941
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,239
they sent this to youtube they sent this

1942
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:24,480
to twitter they sent this to cnn they

1943
01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:25,920
sent it to everybody

1944
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:27,360
and it's a short list and i'm in the

1945
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:28,880
middle of it and it's like wait a minute

1946
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:30,000
how

1947
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:37,040
for uh somebody out there to go

1948
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,360
into this canceled culture and have the

1949
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:40,719
ability to do this

1950
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:44,960
and it worked now i i got

1951
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:48,080
uh how do i say this i got away pretty

1952
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:49,280
unscathed

1953
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:52,239
david lost everything you know he lost

1954
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:53,199
everything he lost

1955
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:54,960
all of his you know what he was left

1956
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:57,360
with was his website that was getting

1957
01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:58,239
hacked

1958
01:17:03,510 --> 01:17:01,440
that was that cool no it's not but it's

1959
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:03,520
also you are legitimizing

1960
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:05,520
the person that you think you are

1961
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:07,760
removing from the public

1962
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:10,159
because his information is dangerous but

1963
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:11,760
they are removing him

1964
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,679
like they they are seriously hindering

1965
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:15,520
him facebook's banning more than just

1966
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:16,400
people uh

1967
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:18,800
just today facebook banned the phrase

1968
01:17:24,310 --> 01:17:19,920
stop the steve

1969
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:24,320
i saw that banned from facebook

1970
01:17:29,110 --> 01:17:26,960
i mean you how i wouldn't have thought

1971
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:29,120
you could make this stuff up but here we

1972
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:30,320
are

1973
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:32,800
you you cannot use the phrase stop the

1974
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:33,360
steel

1975
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,800
i couldn't even re i couldn't even

1976
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:36,800
report the news on that

1977
01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:38,640
because i thought okay if i put stop the

1978
01:17:44,149 --> 01:17:40,400
steel in this announcement

1979
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:44,159
right suddenly i am going to

1980
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:46,800
so i i i didn't even announce it i

1981
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:47,760
didn't even announce

1982
01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:50,000
i'm down on you you know and there are

1983
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:51,679
automated systems right now talk about

1984
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:54,000
orwell that are scanning this program as

1985
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:55,360
you and i speak and they're looking for

1986
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:56,560
keywords

1987
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:59,520
right not a human and they pick oh oh

1988
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:01,679
fade to black said stop this deal 14

1989
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,159
times

1990
01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:04,560
and i get a community strike yeah sorry

1991
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:05,600
about that

1992
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:07,120
yeah thanks richard i don't want to get

1993
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:08,880
you in trouble man but that's where we

1994
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:09,920
are

1995
01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:16,400
tech now when i let's let's back up for

1996
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:17,600
a second the the key

1997
01:18:21,189 --> 01:18:19,360
word there's there's like three key

1998
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:21,199
words that are being used today

1999
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:24,719
censorship communism and socialist right

2000
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:27,520
is socialism these these are being used

2001
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:28,080
fairly

2002
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:29,920
freely when i don't think that everybody

2003
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:31,280
really understands

2004
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:34,080
people on the right side of the spectrum

2005
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:34,960
that's true

2006
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:37,360
yes people on the side of the spectrum

2007
01:18:41,189 --> 01:18:38,640
are not

2008
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:41,199
using those phrases those words they're

2009
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:42,159
using other words

2010
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:43,679
and what was uh what was the first

2011
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:46,719
phrase okay i just said

2012
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:49,520
censorship okay dude i'm telling you i'm

2013
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:50,560
in the video game

2014
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:53,920
silent hill um what's your definition of

2015
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:55,600
censorship

2016
01:19:01,110 --> 01:18:59,360
that's a good question well

2017
01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:01,120
there's a traditional definition of

2018
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:02,800
censorship

2019
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:06,159
and then there's the the current reality

2020
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:12,550
version of censorship is a state or

2021
01:19:17,669 --> 01:19:13,280
government

2022
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:17,679
or official political body or power

2023
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:20,800
preventing certain kinds of ideas from

2024
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:22,800
being expressed

2025
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:24,640
all right so that could be through books

2026
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:26,000
i could be through newspapers and

2027
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:28,000
all of that that's gone for you know

2028
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:29,600
since gutenberg invented the printing

2029
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:31,120
press essentially we've seen different

2030
01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:32,800
versions of that

2031
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,800
contemporary censorship is a lot more

2032
01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:36,800
fluid than that

2033
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:39,280
so it's it doesn't have to rely on

2034
01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:41,440
federal or state law

2035
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:44,960
it can but what we have is a situation

2036
01:19:47,030 --> 01:19:45,760
in which these

2037
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:47,040
massive corporations which are

2038
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:49,360
essentially monopolistic i mean facebook

2039
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:50,960
and twitter

2040
01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:54,560
aren't total monopolies that is true but

2041
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,679
they are

2042
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:58,159
close to it and let's include youtube as

2043
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:00,320
well with google

2044
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:02,480
and in fact let's include google as a as

2045
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:03,840
a search engine i mean they're they're

2046
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:04,480
not a

2047
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:06,239
full monopoly but they're pretty darn

2048
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:07,679
close 96

2049
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:09,840
of the world uh counts as a monopoly

2050
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:10,800
when it comes to

2051
01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:14,960
google and the search engine 96

2052
01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:16,480
and that's what google has the six

2053
01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,320
percent

2054
01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:20,639
so so we'll look at those organizations

2055
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:21,520
and when they

2056
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:25,040
actively as they do um

2057
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:27,600
either outright ban or shadow ban or

2058
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:29,440
soft sensor in one way or another or d

2059
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:30,840
rank and so forth

2060
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:34,480
for explicitly political purposes which

2061
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,600
is what they do

2062
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:37,600
then we have to include that as

2063
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:38,800
censorship i think

2064
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,960
we're we're making a very huge oversight

2065
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:42,239
if we do not include that

2066
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:45,440
when i hear uh some people

2067
01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:47,040
it's amazing to hear this is people on

2068
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:48,239
the left are now saying this this used

2069
01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:49,920
to be something you'd hear on the right

2070
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:51,679
uh private companies can do what they

2071
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:53,199
want

2072
01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:55,120
and so they can you know twitter's a

2073
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:56,800
private company they can do whatever

2074
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:57,840
they want you don't like it go to

2075
01:21:00,870 --> 01:20:58,880
another platform

2076
01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,880
go to parlor oh wait sorry can't go to

2077
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:02,400
parliament so

2078
01:21:09,830 --> 01:21:06,159
um but but that's a false argument

2079
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:09,840
in my view because first of all all of

2080
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:11,360
those big tech organizations work hand

2081
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:12,639
in glove with the national security

2082
01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:14,480
apparatus now anyway and we know this

2083
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:15,920
they had congressional hearings like

2084
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:17,520
they are exp

2085
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:20,320
facebook has hired the atlantic council

2086
01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:21,280
for god's sake

2087
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:23,520
the most neo-conservative war-mongering

2088
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:24,560
bunch of blood

2089
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:26,320
thirsty people you could imagine and

2090
01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:28,320
they are guiding facebook's

2091
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,520
policies on anything to do with

2092
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:33,760
international relations and what can be

2093
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:34,639
said there

2094
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:37,199
basically they they want to have more

2095
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,719
fights against russia

2096
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:40,320
that's what they're all about they're

2097
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:43,440
warhawks so these organizations are in

2098
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:44,320
bed with

2099
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:48,400
political actors out of dc

2100
01:21:53,270 --> 01:21:51,440
una okay on if they're not official the

2101
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:53,280
atlantic council is not part of the u.s

2102
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:54,400
federal government

2103
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:56,480
but they have people who were part of

2104
01:21:58,950 --> 01:21:57,679
that government they have

2105
01:22:00,790 --> 01:21:58,960
i mean they're all part of the dc

2106
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:00,800
culture and facebook is part of that

2107
01:22:05,669 --> 01:22:02,800
so i think we really have to include big

2108
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:05,679
tech as it as a branch of government

2109
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:08,880
they are doing the work that

2110
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:10,639
let's use this phrase the deep state

2111
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:12,080
there is such a thing the intelligence

2112
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:13,760
community and those guys

2113
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:17,040
big tech is doing the work that those

2114
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:19,040
political actors explicitly want but

2115
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:21,040
can't do by law

2116
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:22,239
so you get big tech to do it they're

2117
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,320
private companies they're all

2118
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:26,400
they're all wearing you know they

2119
01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:29,199
they're all part of the same club

2120
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:30,639
a club that we're not in as george

2121
01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:32,480
carlin put many years ago

2122
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,000
so i think that's what we have to

2123
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:36,320
understand when it comes to contemporary

2124
01:22:40,709 --> 01:22:39,520
censorship i think that you know people

2125
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:40,719
are forgetting that we're going through

2126
01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:42,800
a revolutionary period in human history

2127
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:43,280
and we

2128
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:46,880
we cannot look at censorship

2129
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,000
the way that you might have looked at it

2130
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,639
in 1950 that that's not

2131
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:52,159
adequate no it's two different

2132
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:54,639
conversations of censorship today

2133
01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:58,400
but is this an example of when

2134
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:00,560
facebook pulls the move that they have

2135
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:02,320
done and twitter

2136
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:05,360
uh by banning trump

2137
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:08,800
that they wield more power than any

2138
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:09,440
government

2139
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:12,080
and and in many ways that is true and

2140
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:13,760
there's nothing that you can go further

2141
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:21,750
um in some way you know you think about

2142
01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:24,719
him in 2015 2016 when he was running

2143
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:27,679
for office and here's the thing about

2144
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:28,239
this guy

2145
01:23:31,030 --> 01:23:29,679
all right you say all you want about his

2146
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:31,040
personalities lots of things you can

2147
01:23:34,629 --> 01:23:33,360
criticize narcissism and womanizer and

2148
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:34,639
all of these other things

2149
01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:38,639
all true horrible messenger

2150
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:41,280
in so many ways but the fact was the

2151
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:43,520
reason he won in 2016 is because of his

2152
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:44,320
message

2153
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:48,159
entire group of people that felt that

2154
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:49,920
they were disenfranchised

2155
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:53,120
working class and middle class people

2156
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:55,600
that's who we talked to no one had done

2157
01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:57,840
that since ralph nader tried in the 90s

2158
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:59,600
even bernie sanders really didn't do it

2159
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,960
in my opinion

2160
01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:02,560
because trump was also talking against

2161
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:04,239
all the wars the forever wars

2162
01:24:10,149 --> 01:24:07,360
who the hell did that answer no one

2163
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:10,159
not bernie not hillary she's proponent

2164
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:10,960
of those things

2165
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:12,800
here's trump candidate trump let's

2166
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:14,400
distinguish candidate from president

2167
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:14,880
here

2168
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:16,800
but trump came in as a candidate who

2169
01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:19,840
talked against the wars

2170
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:23,440
and and really very forthrightly so

2171
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:26,560
frankly and against the

2172
01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:29,679
the the trend of globalization which is

2173
01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:30,000
what

2174
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:32,320
ralph nader was all about in the late

2175
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:34,159
90s

2176
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:35,520
nader did it from the left trump did it

2177
01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:37,280
from the right but they were talking the

2178
01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:38,560
same game

2179
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:40,400
and so trump gets in so there's this

2180
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:41,600
outsider

2181
01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:46,239
political friends but

2182
01:24:49,510 --> 01:24:48,560
total political novice and really went

2183
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:49,520
in

2184
01:24:56,870 --> 01:24:55,120
so he gets hammered michael flynn the

2185
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:56,880
one guy who had

2186
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:58,560
who actually had some really good ideas

2187
01:25:00,629 --> 01:25:00,000
on reforming the intelligence community

2188
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:00,639
gets

2189
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:06,159
taken out immediately flynn back in 2012

2190
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:08,719
was talking about how islamic state had

2191
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:09,520
been

2192
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:12,480
covertly assisted by us intelligence

2193
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:14,239
when i heard that in 2012 i'm like who

2194
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:15,440
the hell is michael flynn

2195
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:18,480
right i was blown away right by that

2196
01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:21,920
so trump brings that guy in to head the

2197
01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:24,800
intelligence director of intelligence i

2198
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:25,600
i was

2199
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:29,440
amazed um but but trump was so

2200
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:32,159
you have to say like incompetent in so

2201
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:33,040
many ways about

2202
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:34,960
about running his program but here's my

2203
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:37,520
point you have the ultimate outsider who

2204
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,040
comes in

2205
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:41,199
and he becomes president like against

2206
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,960
all odds really

2207
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:44,080
wasn't just the democrats who didn't

2208
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:46,000
like him the republicans hated him

2209
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:50,000
like they hated him and he wins

2210
01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:54,560
um and he was utterly like aladdin's he

2211
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:56,159
got surrounded by all the same neocons

2212
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:57,440
that would have surrounded hillary

2213
01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:00,080
and that do now surround biden like the

2214
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:01,840
same group of people

2215
01:26:06,229 --> 01:26:04,560
so so what where we have to conclude is

2216
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:06,239
that

2217
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:10,400
like for any u.s president to actually

2218
01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:12,719
truly reform the system or drain the

2219
01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:14,159
swamp as he said

2220
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:17,840
like it's it's basically impossible

2221
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:20,239
i think it just can't be done i don't

2222
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:21,280
see how it can be done

2223
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,360
you could have someone like trump who's

2224
01:26:28,629 --> 01:26:25,520
better than trump at doing it

2225
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:28,639
uh who's that going to be i don't know

2226
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:30,560
who that person is

2227
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:32,800
so we're at a point uh it's not just

2228
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:33,920
that big tech is

2229
01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:36,960
is bigger than the president yes but a

2230
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:38,400
lot of things are bigger than the us

2231
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:39,520
president

2232
01:26:42,629 --> 01:26:40,960
the intelligence community is bigger

2233
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:42,639
than you as president the

2234
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:44,560
the military-industrial complex is

2235
01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:46,400
bigger than the us president

2236
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:48,480
what's that yes and so what what's the

2237
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:50,639
message that is sent out to the world

2238
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:52,960
when you know somebody like you know

2239
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:55,040
president trump or any sitting president

2240
01:26:57,990 --> 01:26:56,400
for that matter but in this case it's

2241
01:27:02,470 --> 01:26:58,000
president trump with the

2242
01:27:04,629 --> 01:27:02,480
with his influence um to just

2243
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,639
throw him off their network what's the

2244
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:06,480
message it's just like we don't

2245
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:09,760
he can't do anything about it

2246
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:12,000
that's that's right he can't he can't

2247
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:13,120
flip a switch

2248
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:14,880
was it gonna suit you what's he gonna do

2249
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:16,639
good luck with that right exactly

2250
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:18,880
it's not to go anywhere and zuckerberg

2251
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:20,000
knows this

2252
01:27:24,550 --> 01:27:23,840
trump's got money but zuckerberg and

2253
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:24,560
dorothy have

2254
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,320
way more money much more but

2255
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:30,639
but that that's the message to the world

2256
01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:31,520
here

2257
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:34,080
you know and and to all the politicians

2258
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:36,000
and to the rest of uh

2259
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:38,639
the average joe's and james like myself

2260
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:39,600
and you

2261
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:41,679
joe biden will be will be treated well

2262
01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:43,120
by the media because he

2263
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:45,199
he knows he is a washington insider he's

2264
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:46,320
been there for 50 years

2265
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:49,600
he knows extremely well what his role is

2266
01:27:54,070 --> 01:27:50,800
going to be

2267
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:54,080
and so he's not going to make any waves

2268
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:56,880
in that regard the way trump did i mean

2269
01:28:00,070 --> 01:27:57,600
we're really

2270
01:28:01,669 --> 01:28:00,080
in a sense we're making a mistake when

2271
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:01,679
we see this as a democrat versus

2272
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:03,440
republican

2273
01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:05,760
uh argument i mean yes in some ways

2274
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:07,199
there is there's there are social and

2275
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:08,560
cultural issues

2276
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:10,880
that people genuinely get worked up over

2277
01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:12,400
i understand that

2278
01:28:16,750 --> 01:28:14,719
but in a larger sense we're really we

2279
01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:16,760
are looking at establishment versus

2280
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:19,199
anti-establishment and and it would be

2281
01:28:24,790 --> 01:28:21,480
wrong to portray trump as a true

2282
01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:24,800
anti-establishment president he wasn't

2283
01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:26,400
in so many ways he was not

2284
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:28,239
but he did have anti-establishment

2285
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:29,440
rhetoric and

2286
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:32,480
did in some ways uh

2287
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:35,199
actually truly oppose the establishment

2288
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:36,960
and primarily not in

2289
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:38,480
so much in foreign policy although a

2290
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:40,400
little bit but primarily in his

2291
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,520
stance on globalization now um things

2292
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:44,960
like that so like that that actually

2293
01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:45,840
made him

2294
01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:48,960
the true enemy of let's say

2295
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,480
globalist oriented establishment uh

2296
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:54,480
you know power players that that was

2297
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:56,400
completely you know the davos crowd the

2298
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:58,000
bilderberg crowd like those individuals

2299
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:59,199
that's where i'm going that's where i'm

2300
01:29:01,270 --> 01:29:00,320
going i've got to take a break right

2301
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:01,280
here richard

2302
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:04,159
but um it i think it's a it's a clear

2303
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:04,719
message

2304
01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:08,080
where no matter who gets elected and

2305
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:10,560
goes in on january 20th to the brand new

2306
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:12,320
you know office and sits down at the

2307
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,040
desk

2308
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:15,280
and is moving their pens around and the

2309
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:16,800
phone rings

2310
01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:19,679
and you pick it up and it's your boss

2311
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:20,639
right

2312
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:24,000
you may be the president but there

2313
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:25,840
are things out there that are more

2314
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:27,440
powerful than you yeah

2315
01:29:30,629 --> 01:29:29,040
that's right let's take our break right

2316
01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:30,639
here this is fade to black i am your

2317
01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:31,679
host jimmy church i guess tonight

2318
01:29:35,830 --> 01:29:33,360
richard nolan

2319
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:35,840
uh yeah you have never heard this

2320
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:37,760
conversation on fade to block before and

2321
01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:38,000
there's

2322
01:29:53,530 --> 01:29:39,920
more to come when we come back after

2323
01:30:02,070 --> 01:29:53,540
this short break stay with us

2324
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:05,270
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2325
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:08,320
you're listening to fade to black

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01:30:11,350 --> 01:30:10,239
always on the edge of the hottest

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alternative talk

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01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:32,310
do you want to be an official fate or

2330
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:34,320
not of course you do

2331
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:36,320
this is jimmy church of fade to black

2332
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just go to our membership section

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01:30:43,350 --> 01:30:41,360
at jimmychurchradio.com

2334
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:43,360
fader knots when you think about the

2335
01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:45,199
future of our country and where we're

2336
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:47,120
headed do you wonder about the food

2337
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:48,000
supply

2338
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chain could be disastrous

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and they usually occur with little

2340
01:30:57,590 --> 01:30:56,560
warning that's why the smartest thing

2341
01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:57,600
you can do today

2342
01:31:03,110 --> 01:31:00,800
is to stockpile emergency food water

2343
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and other essentials i personally

2344
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recommend my

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in fact they're the only source my

2350
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family trust for our preparedness plan

2351
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you should too right now save 20

2352
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2353
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000 calories a day saving 20 helps too

2355
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doesn't it especially now so go to

2356
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2357
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that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

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2373
01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:18,250
and so does the cia

2374
01:32:28,390 --> 01:32:26,390
kgraradio.com

2375
01:32:33,189 --> 01:32:28,400
you are listening to fate to black with

2376
01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:35,750
hi i'm reese vance you're listening to

2377
01:32:39,910 --> 01:32:36,800
jimmy church

2378
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:39,920
this is revolution the revolution will

2379
01:32:48,490 --> 01:32:41,280
not be televised

2380
01:32:48,500 --> 01:32:52,830
[Music]

2381
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:59,260
ciao

2382
01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:06,830
[Music]

2383
01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:29,590
welcome back fade to black i am your

2384
01:33:33,430 --> 01:33:31,920
host jimmy church tonight richard dolan

2385
01:33:35,270 --> 01:33:33,440
is our guest and

2386
01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:35,280
talking about all this big tech and what

2387
01:33:41,270 --> 01:33:38,560
is going on and data and everything else

2388
01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:41,280
right now is the time to get virtual

2389
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:43,360
shield vpn because there are suggestions

2390
01:33:47,510 --> 01:33:45,199
that our credit scores might be based on

2391
01:33:50,070 --> 01:33:47,520
our internet history in the near future

2392
01:33:50,629 --> 01:33:50,080
this is being discussed right now the

2393
01:33:53,030 --> 01:33:50,639
same way

2394
01:33:54,870 --> 01:33:53,040
banks use data like income to judge a

2395
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:54,880
credit eligibility

2396
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:57,360
right now is how websites could use

2397
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,719
internet search history

2398
01:34:02,390 --> 01:34:00,719
in the future if you want to prevent

2399
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:02,400
this from happening to you

2400
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:05,360
use the very best vpn right now so you

2401
01:34:09,669 --> 01:34:07,440
can have your search history separate

2402
01:34:10,629 --> 01:34:09,679
from your personal data i highly

2403
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recommend

2404
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virtual shield vpn you can see the

2405
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studio here

2406
01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:16,000
i have got six computers that run this

2407
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show all run virtual shield

2408
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vpn all you have to do is go to virtual

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shield forward slash fade to black

2410
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and and get it right now and and 50

2411
01:34:30,870 --> 01:34:29,920
off today if you click on the video

2412
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:30,880
description

2413
01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:32,800
below right now that link in the

2414
01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:34,080
description box

2415
01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:37,040
virtual shield vpn our guest tonight

2416
01:34:42,070 --> 01:34:38,000
richard dolan

2417
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:42,080
and now richard um social media is one

2418
01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:43,760
thing

2419
01:34:51,030 --> 01:34:48,400
but is the media guilty here

2420
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:51,040
is the media the way that they have

2421
01:34:56,390 --> 01:34:52,400
allowed

2422
01:34:59,430 --> 01:34:56,400
uh biased opinion headlines

2423
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:59,440
slanted in one direction uh across the

2424
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:00,480
board

2425
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:03,199
um they're not gonna backpedal they're

2426
01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:03,920
not gonna

2427
01:35:08,870 --> 01:35:06,960
admit to being a part of this situation

2428
01:35:10,629 --> 01:35:08,880
that we find ourselves in but they're as

2429
01:35:14,149 --> 01:35:10,639
guilty as anybody aren't they

2430
01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:14,159
of course they are absolutely absolutely

2431
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:18,080
um i mean you can liken

2432
01:35:21,750 --> 01:35:21,040
what we have seen uh i'm gonna this is

2433
01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:21,760
this is

2434
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:24,800
something that's gonna i'm sure

2435
01:35:27,350 --> 01:35:26,320
some people will support what i'm about

2436
01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:27,360
to say and some people are going to be

2437
01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:28,080
very upset with

2438
01:35:33,430 --> 01:35:31,679
what i'm about to say um but there is a

2439
01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:33,440
model

2440
01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:36,480
that existed even before we had donald

2441
01:35:40,310 --> 01:35:37,360
trump

2442
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:40,320
and from what we have seen since 2016

2443
01:35:43,430 --> 01:35:41,520
and that model is called color

2444
01:35:46,709 --> 01:35:43,440
revolution

2445
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,719
uh something i've studied extensively um

2446
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:48,480
you know i was about to write a book on

2447
01:35:52,229 --> 01:35:50,480
false flags and i ended up doing a

2448
01:35:53,669 --> 01:35:52,239
series for gaia tv on false flags

2449
01:35:54,870 --> 01:35:53,679
instead but

2450
01:35:57,270 --> 01:35:54,880
a lot of that has to do with color

2451
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,280
revolution and it's it's a technique

2452
01:36:00,390 --> 01:35:59,040
of destabilizing a nation that the

2453
01:36:01,350 --> 01:36:00,400
united states intelligence community

2454
01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:01,360
perfected

2455
01:36:04,149 --> 01:36:03,040
i mean actually back in the 50s and 60s

2456
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:04,159
they were doing it then they handed it

2457
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:04,800
over

2458
01:36:12,229 --> 01:36:08,880
to the um the ned the national endowment

2459
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:12,239
for democracy in the early 1980s and and

2460
01:36:15,590 --> 01:36:13,840
they do the work and this is according

2461
01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:15,600
to the ned's founder he says we do the

2462
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:17,280
work that the cia used to do

2463
01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:19,679
and they're an ngo and they funnel money

2464
01:36:22,229 --> 01:36:20,639
into countries

2465
01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:22,239
billions of dollars and they destabilize

2466
01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:23,679
those countries they create radicals

2467
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:24,239
they

2468
01:36:32,070 --> 01:36:30,960
mood in the nation to get people to the

2469
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:32,080
edge

2470
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:33,600
and they try to catch lightning in a

2471
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:34,960
bottle and try to have a successful

2472
01:36:37,510 --> 01:36:35,600
revolution

2473
01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:37,520
and it's worked many times it's failed

2474
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:38,719
at other times

2475
01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:42,080
but it can work and it's a technique

2476
01:36:45,910 --> 01:36:45,679
back in 2016 i was looking at that model

2477
01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:45,920
as

2478
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:48,080
having going on here in the united

2479
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:49,520
states because

2480
01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:51,199
what you really had was there was an

2481
01:36:55,669 --> 01:36:52,639
establishment candidate that year that

2482
01:36:57,910 --> 01:36:55,679
was hillary clinton and it was obvious

2483
01:36:58,790 --> 01:36:57,920
i mean anyone who wants to deny that you

2484
01:37:00,310 --> 01:36:58,800
know 95

2485
01:37:01,990 --> 01:37:00,320
of the media was was against donald

2486
01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:02,000
trump you had fox and then you had

2487
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:03,119
everyone else

2488
01:37:07,189 --> 01:37:05,360
essentially so they were supporting

2489
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:07,199
trump partially

2490
01:37:10,550 --> 01:37:08,800
fox had a lot of old-line republicans

2491
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:10,560
that were not happy with trump either

2492
01:37:13,910 --> 01:37:13,199
and that remains true today but they

2493
01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:13,920
were

2494
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:15,679
at a republican base and so they def

2495
01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:17,280
they did support trump

2496
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:19,360
um but the entire rest of the

2497
01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:21,040
establishment media you know did not and

2498
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:21,679
and they made

2499
01:37:26,070 --> 01:37:24,480
this into an armageddon so it was it was

2500
01:37:27,669 --> 01:37:26,080
something that no one had ever seen in

2501
01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:27,679
the united states before

2502
01:37:31,750 --> 01:37:30,480
like we had never seen a situation in

2503
01:37:35,510 --> 01:37:31,760
which the media

2504
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:35,520
overtly got on board into such an

2505
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:36,719
extreme

2506
01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:38,960
partisan way as if it were life and

2507
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:40,000
death and they

2508
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:43,360
convinced um i mean i remember when

2509
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:44,400
trump got elected

2510
01:37:46,870 --> 01:37:45,679
there were people who were actually

2511
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:46,880
crying believing that they were going to

2512
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:48,000
be carted off to

2513
01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:50,719
camps like that's what they had come to

2514
01:37:54,229 --> 01:37:52,800
believe and i just kept thinking how

2515
01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:54,239
how did you come to believe that well we

2516
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:55,440
know how they came to believe that it

2517
01:38:00,470 --> 01:37:57,280
was an entire media drum beat

2518
01:38:03,669 --> 01:38:00,480
and so that drum beat never stopped um

2519
01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:03,679
and i'm suggesting and

2520
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:05,280
look i don't i don't have every single

2521
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:06,880
bit of detail because i i'm not

2522
01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:08,560
an inside player here and i don't know

2523
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:10,080
how this all went down

2524
01:38:14,629 --> 01:38:12,639
but i think we have to understand that

2525
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:14,639
there's a model that's in place

2526
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:16,480
and the united states has now had that

2527
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:18,480
model in my view

2528
01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:20,880
uh turned upon itself and i think we

2529
01:38:24,390 --> 01:38:22,800
really have to consider that

2530
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:24,400
and if you know someone who's listening

2531
01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:26,880
to this who hates trump and

2532
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:28,800
i understand like i'm not trying to say

2533
01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:30,480
to you oh donald trump is some wonderful

2534
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:32,000
man i'm not saying that

2535
01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:36,080
but there are there are motivations that

2536
01:38:39,109 --> 01:38:36,800
the

2537
01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:39,119
top elite establishment players of this

2538
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:40,159
world

2539
01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:42,719
have and there are desires that they

2540
01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:44,000
have and

2541
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:45,679
having trump in office was not one of

2542
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:47,679
those desires

2543
01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:49,040
you know shortly before the election

2544
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:51,280
julian assange i think famously said

2545
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:52,960
trump will not be allowed to become

2546
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:55,040
president okay well assange

2547
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,880
was proven wrong there but but his

2548
01:38:59,830 --> 01:38:58,800
fundamental analysis i think was right

2549
01:39:02,629 --> 01:38:59,840
in which

2550
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:02,639
you know he was saying the established

2551
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:03,280
powers

2552
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:04,800
of the united states and indeed of the

2553
01:39:08,629 --> 01:39:06,639
western world

2554
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,639
were going to do everything possible to

2555
01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:10,880
prevent this man from becoming president

2556
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:12,480
and when he did become president they

2557
01:39:16,470 --> 01:39:14,159
did everything possible to take him out

2558
01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:16,480
in every every conceivable way like

2559
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:17,280
we've never

2560
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:20,320
seen four years like this

2561
01:39:24,149 --> 01:39:22,480
uh now the opposition to trump said well

2562
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:24,159
he caused his own problems

2563
01:39:28,550 --> 01:39:27,040
he's he's the you know the renegade and

2564
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:28,560
we've got to stop him from

2565
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:31,040
turning america into a fascist state you

2566
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:33,280
know you hear this all the time

2567
01:39:37,270 --> 01:39:35,360
but i don't see it that way and i you

2568
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:37,280
know i see trump as very problematic in

2569
01:39:41,910 --> 01:39:38,800
a lot of ways but

2570
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:41,920
um i've never seen him as a man who's

2571
01:39:45,109 --> 01:39:43,679
explicitly trying to bring fascism to

2572
01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:45,119
the united states

2573
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:46,400
no i'm not saying he doesn't want to be

2574
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:48,880
a strong uh have a lot of power like but

2575
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:50,400
that's what every american president

2576
01:39:53,830 --> 01:39:52,080
that doesn't distinguish him

2577
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:53,840
from every single president that we have

2578
01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:55,840
had in our lifetime to be

2579
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:58,000
quite frank now doesn't distinguish him

2580
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:59,280
from from obama

2581
01:40:02,390 --> 01:40:01,679
or from george w bush or even from bill

2582
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:02,400
clinton

2583
01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:04,960
now i remember uh as i was listening to

2584
01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:06,560
the campaign continue

2585
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:10,560
uh before he was elected where these

2586
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:14,639
he was alluding to conspiracy theories

2587
01:40:18,070 --> 01:40:16,320
right and you're right and i was hearing

2588
01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:18,080
this and i what i had

2589
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:20,960
said uh the night of the election we did

2590
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:22,719
a special live broadcast i don't know if

2591
01:40:25,669 --> 01:40:24,400
you were part of it but we did a live

2592
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:25,679
broadcast and then

2593
01:40:29,830 --> 01:40:28,560
i had said shortly after that and then i

2594
01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:29,840
never brought up

2595
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:34,800
anything again for almost i said i

2596
01:40:40,390 --> 01:40:37,920
i don't know if we necessarily

2597
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:40,400
want to have somebody that believes in

2598
01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:42,639
conspiracy theory

2599
01:40:46,790 --> 01:40:45,119
in the oval office why not you know hold

2600
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:46,800
on hold on

2601
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:50,400
because because

2602
01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:52,719
our community understands conspiracy

2603
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,440
theory

2604
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:55,440
we know how to deal with it we know how

2605
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:56,560
to uh

2606
01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,000
uh explore it understand it dismiss it

2607
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:02,159
we don't go off the deep end but the

2608
01:41:07,189 --> 01:41:04,480
rest of the country is not us

2609
01:41:09,350 --> 01:41:07,199
it's not our community and you start

2610
01:41:12,629 --> 01:41:09,360
downloading conspiracy theory

2611
01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:12,639
on uh a country that's not prepared for

2612
01:41:17,910 --> 01:41:15,520
it and hasn't dealt with it in the past

2613
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:17,920
this could get a little bit dangerous

2614
01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:19,040
and ultimately

2615
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:22,159
the media runs with it and social media

2616
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:23,920
and now well what's special is they've

2617
01:41:28,390 --> 01:41:26,159
completely discredited any idea of

2618
01:41:31,990 --> 01:41:28,400
conspiracy theory i mean they've

2619
01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:32,000
like this is what they have done i deal

2620
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:33,600
with conspiracy theory like you could

2621
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:35,520
say that's part of my profession it's my

2622
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:37,440
profession

2623
01:41:40,870 --> 01:41:39,600
and i deal with conspiracies i know

2624
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:40,880
there are conspiracies

2625
01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:43,760
i have known for many decades that there

2626
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:45,280
are conspiracies

2627
01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:46,480
uh you're not going to convince me

2628
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:48,000
otherwise no one will because i know

2629
01:41:51,350 --> 01:41:48,960
that they're real

2630
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:51,360
but and so and also the phrase

2631
01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:52,400
conspiracy

2632
01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:54,800
theory as far as anyone has been able to

2633
01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:56,880
determine

2634
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:59,119
seems to have been a creation of the cia

2635
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:00,000
itself

2636
01:42:06,790 --> 01:42:03,520
in a 1967 memo that was explicitly

2637
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:06,800
dealing with ways of disabling the jfk

2638
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:09,360
alternative conspiracy theories and so

2639
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:11,280
what this cia memo was trying to do is

2640
01:42:15,109 --> 01:42:11,920
to

2641
01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:15,119
find ways of kneecapping those people

2642
01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:17,440
so using that phrase in the media like

2643
01:42:20,229 --> 01:42:18,320
they were saying let's

2644
01:42:21,669 --> 01:42:20,239
use our media friends and they'll

2645
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:21,679
they'll introduce this person as a

2646
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:23,040
conspiracy theorist

2647
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:27,199
like that's the i think that that is the

2648
01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:28,320
origin of the

2649
01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:30,159
so anytime someone's using the phrase

2650
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:32,159
conspiracy theory

2651
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:34,320
uh in a kind of conventional way they're

2652
01:42:38,709 --> 01:42:36,880
literally doing the work of the cia

2653
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:38,719
more than 50 years ago they're actually

2654
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:40,000
doing the work so

2655
01:42:43,270 --> 01:42:42,400
uh to dismiss someone oh as a conspiracy

2656
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:43,280
theorist

2657
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,639
and it's almost you could say well he's

2658
01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:46,080
being a conspiracy theorist for saying

2659
01:42:50,870 --> 01:42:47,600
this but the fact is it's true

2660
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:50,880
this was a cia creation so

2661
01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:53,520
um the fact that that you've got a guy

2662
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:54,880
like trump

2663
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:56,639
who was not a career politician he was a

2664
01:43:01,270 --> 01:42:59,040
private guy he was a private billionaire

2665
01:43:02,310 --> 01:43:01,280
made and lost his fortune however many

2666
01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:02,320
times

2667
01:43:08,390 --> 01:43:05,679
but he was a private citizen and

2668
01:43:09,109 --> 01:43:08,400
no it's not surprising that he'd be into

2669
01:43:12,229 --> 01:43:09,119
all kinds of

2670
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:12,239
alternative theories about the world as

2671
01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:12,560
you

2672
01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:17,040
listeners are

2673
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:20,000
all right so you get a guy who's like

2674
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:20,400
he's

2675
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:24,239
looking at maybe an

2676
01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:27,119
alternative way of looking at 9 11 god

2677
01:43:31,189 --> 01:43:28,480
forbid

2678
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:31,199
okay i don't know where what his private

2679
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:32,880
beliefs of 9 11 are he hasn't really

2680
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:34,480
said anything publicly that's

2681
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:36,880
against the mainstream but the point is

2682
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:39,520
like you see this is a guy who

2683
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:42,560
it's not hard for anyone to see that he

2684
01:43:45,910 --> 01:43:45,280
he was liable at any given point to veer

2685
01:43:47,669 --> 01:43:45,920
away

2686
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:47,679
from the established party line on

2687
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:49,600
practically anything

2688
01:43:54,870 --> 01:43:52,719
that's what made him interesting and he

2689
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:54,880
was the only president that we've had in

2690
01:43:58,709 --> 01:43:56,000
our lifetime

2691
01:43:59,430 --> 01:43:58,719
who was like that i um there's no other

2692
01:44:02,470 --> 01:43:59,440
president

2693
01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:02,480
last last year uh rita and i

2694
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:06,159
um we were at a private uh

2695
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:08,639
gathering i don't want to get into the

2696
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:10,239
specifics of it but

2697
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:12,880
we sat down at this table um this about

2698
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:14,159
six months ago

2699
01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:16,639
and it's rita and i and i think we knew

2700
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:19,119
one person or two people at this table

2701
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:22,159
but we were introduced to like eight

2702
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:25,440
people for the first time okay and we

2703
01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:27,360
and we sit down it's lunch

2704
01:44:30,950 --> 01:44:30,560
yeah and out of the gate nobody no i

2705
01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:30,960
don't

2706
01:44:38,229 --> 01:44:36,960
right okay and immediately it's hi i'm

2707
01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:38,239
jimmy this is rita hi

2708
01:44:43,750 --> 01:44:40,800
you know and out of the gate is the

2709
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,830
listen to me richard as god is my

2710
01:44:53,430 --> 01:44:49,760
witness i didn't say a word

2711
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:53,440
this happened with them and it was

2712
01:44:58,950 --> 01:44:56,880
conspiracy this that that

2713
01:45:00,229 --> 01:44:58,960
back and forth across and i sat back

2714
01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:00,239
with her and i

2715
01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:01,600
i leaned over to read i got i haven't

2716
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:03,920
spoken to anybody right

2717
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:06,880
i didn't start this so so they were all

2718
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:08,719
into alternative

2719
01:45:15,669 --> 01:45:12,239
they're all red pilled everything

2720
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:15,679
that was talked about was going on in

2721
01:45:19,590 --> 01:45:16,480
this table

2722
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:19,600
um and not to get into specifics but my

2723
01:45:24,229 --> 01:45:21,679
point is this

2724
01:45:27,669 --> 01:45:24,239
everybody now is a conspiracy theorist

2725
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:30,790
look a lot of conspiracy theories are

2726
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:31,600
wrong

2727
01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:34,000
we all know that uh there are people who

2728
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:36,000
do go off the deep end i've seen it

2729
01:45:41,990 --> 01:45:39,280
many times so have you so many listeners

2730
01:45:44,310 --> 01:45:42,000
so that's the but this is why free

2731
01:45:45,910 --> 01:45:44,320
speech is so important

2732
01:45:48,870 --> 01:45:45,920
all right if we don't believe in the

2733
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:48,880
ability of having an actual debate on

2734
01:45:51,910 --> 01:45:50,159
ideas

2735
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:51,920
then we don't believe in free speech i

2736
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:54,480
mean the best defense the best statement

2737
01:45:57,350 --> 01:45:55,920
of vending free speech was actually

2738
01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:57,360
someone on the left that was noam

2739
01:46:00,390 --> 01:45:58,239
chomsky

2740
01:46:02,149 --> 01:46:00,400
a million years ago when he said if you

2741
01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:02,159
don't believe in freedom of speech for

2742
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:03,679
people you disagree with then you don't

2743
01:46:05,270 --> 01:46:04,960
believe in freedom of speech that's

2744
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:05,280
right

2745
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:13,520
but the point is the the best

2746
01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:17,520
uh solution to conspiracy theories that

2747
01:46:21,030 --> 01:46:18,400
go out of control

2748
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:21,040
is simply freedom of discourse freedom

2749
01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:22,400
of speech that

2750
01:46:25,990 --> 01:46:25,440
we have the opportunity to interface

2751
01:46:28,629 --> 01:46:26,000
with each other

2752
01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:28,639
and you can you can correct me when i'm

2753
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,760
wrong and i can correct you when you're

2754
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:31,360
wrong and so forth and we can try to

2755
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:32,400
reason it out

2756
01:46:36,229 --> 01:46:34,960
now look we're driven by emotions and

2757
01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:36,239
not everyone does that

2758
01:46:39,590 --> 01:46:37,760
most of us don't do that even on a good

2759
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:39,600
day but but if

2760
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:42,480
but it can happen and it does happen and

2761
01:46:48,229 --> 01:46:43,679
over time

2762
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:48,239
freedom of expression does lead to truth

2763
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:49,600
and if someone doesn't believe in that

2764
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:52,000
then they they do not believe

2765
01:46:55,990 --> 01:46:54,880
in freedom of speech like they and and

2766
01:46:58,070 --> 01:46:56,000
the fact is we have to be

2767
01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:58,080
real here there are many people who do

2768
01:47:00,870 --> 01:47:00,000
not any longer believe in freedom of

2769
01:47:02,390 --> 01:47:00,880
speech

2770
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:02,400
we're going through a massive cultural

2771
01:47:07,669 --> 01:47:04,639
change this is being brought in from

2772
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:07,679
above big tech is a big big part of it

2773
01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:10,400
and they're working undoubtedly with the

2774
01:47:13,430 --> 01:47:11,600
davos

2775
01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:13,440
folks and the bilderberg folks there's

2776
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:15,119
no question about this in my

2777
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:18,159
my mind and they are

2778
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:21,040
actively working to create a new culture

2779
01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:22,560
and they're doing it

2780
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:25,840
and that is a culture of conformity to

2781
01:47:30,550 --> 01:47:29,040
so-called authoritative sources and you

2782
01:47:32,629 --> 01:47:30,560
hear this phrase authoritative

2783
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:32,639
frequently now youtube uses it all the

2784
01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:33,600
time

2785
01:47:37,629 --> 01:47:35,760
i'm sure google you know and and uh

2786
01:47:40,470 --> 01:47:37,639
facebook probably uses it

2787
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:40,480
authoritative we only use authoritative

2788
01:47:43,510 --> 01:47:41,600
sources

2789
01:47:45,510 --> 01:47:43,520
what the hell does that mean and who's

2790
01:47:47,350 --> 01:47:45,520
who who makes that determination

2791
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,360
exactly and and these are political

2792
01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:49,679
determinations we saw this about halfway

2793
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:50,800
through

2794
01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:53,199
no no no it's not well that's my point

2795
01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:54,480
i'm about to make

2796
01:48:02,629 --> 01:47:58,719
about halfway through 2020 suddenly

2797
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:02,639
we see this new platform adopted by the

2798
01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:04,000
tech companies

2799
01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:07,840
that if you don't toe the party line

2800
01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:10,880
and the establishment line on covid

2801
01:48:16,870 --> 01:48:14,159
and vaccines you're done

2802
01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:16,880
and you know like dell big tree silenced

2803
01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:18,080
removed right of course

2804
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:21,280
david right and others where if

2805
01:48:25,590 --> 01:48:24,320
if you say anything other than these

2806
01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:25,600
points

2807
01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:27,840
you're you're going to lose your social

2808
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:29,760
media platform and your ability

2809
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:32,400
to speak about this at all and any

2810
01:48:37,030 --> 01:48:33,840
alternative ideas

2811
01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:37,040
any opinions any conversation that could

2812
01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:38,000
be had about it

2813
01:48:43,430 --> 01:48:40,719
was absolutely silenced and their

2814
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:43,440
justification was for public safety

2815
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:45,280
that's how they justify it so they're

2816
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:47,760
they're saying we listen to the science

2817
01:48:53,189 --> 01:48:51,440
the science and this is authoritative

2818
01:48:55,109 --> 01:48:53,199
and if you are going to talk against

2819
01:48:57,109 --> 01:48:55,119
vaccinations in this in this instance

2820
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:57,119
then you are endangering public safety

2821
01:49:00,629 --> 01:48:58,400
and we are going to

2822
01:49:01,590 --> 01:49:00,639
remove your your voice like that's that

2823
01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:01,600
is their justification

2824
01:49:05,109 --> 01:49:02,880
there are many people who agree with

2825
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:05,119
that that is a large

2826
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:07,119
segment of the population i don't know

2827
01:49:09,669 --> 01:49:08,239
what the percentage is but i'll

2828
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:09,679
guarantee there's a lot of people

2829
01:49:13,990 --> 01:49:13,440
who who support that so so their support

2830
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:14,000
for freedom

2831
01:49:18,629 --> 01:49:17,040
of speech is contingent

2832
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:18,639
it seems to me and i'm not trying to

2833
01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:20,320
single those folks out you could look at

2834
01:49:22,550 --> 01:49:20,960
this

2835
01:49:24,229 --> 01:49:22,560
in a lot of ways from a lot of

2836
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:24,239
perspectives but

2837
01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:25,840
their support of freedom of speech is

2838
01:49:27,990 --> 01:49:27,760
essentially for those people who agree

2839
01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:28,000
with

2840
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:30,880
them now somebody that uh you know makes

2841
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:32,400
a video

2842
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:36,560
uh publishes it on youtube and says

2843
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:40,320
5g is is causing

2844
01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:43,679
covid and bill gates is

2845
01:49:47,589 --> 01:49:45,920
injecting microchips into your system

2846
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:47,599
for the new world order right it ties

2847
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:49,119
all of this stuff together

2848
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:52,560
um crazy for most people

2849
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:54,000
on the other part somebody's gonna

2850
01:49:59,669 --> 01:49:56,560
listen to that video and go up and start

2851
01:50:02,790 --> 01:49:59,679
blowing up 5g cell phone towers

2852
01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:02,800
which started well but my point is is

2853
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:04,880
that enough to justify

2854
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,800
somebody's opinion and shutting down a

2855
01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:08,800
youtube channel no actually it is not

2856
01:50:12,229 --> 01:50:10,639
enough to justify that right

2857
01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:12,239
so if you're going to make an argument i

2858
01:50:15,669 --> 01:50:13,599
mean people do make this argument that

2859
01:50:16,870 --> 01:50:15,679
5g caused covet and i don't believe that

2860
01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:16,880
argument at all

2861
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:18,320
if someone's going to make that argument

2862
01:50:23,750 --> 01:50:20,320
they have to provide evidence

2863
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:23,760
and i seriously doubt that that is an

2864
01:50:26,950 --> 01:50:24,800
argument that

2865
01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:26,960
if it were allowed to propagate which it

2866
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:27,920
isn't but

2867
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:31,760
even if it were i eve as dumbed down as

2868
01:50:34,629 --> 01:50:32,960
we have all become

2869
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:34,639
i still seriously doubt that that is an

2870
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:35,520
argument that would get a lot of

2871
01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:37,119
traction

2872
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:40,320
um i just i would be very skeptical that

2873
01:50:43,830 --> 01:50:41,199
it would

2874
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:43,840
again you you have to have trust in the

2875
01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:45,840
free marketplace of ideas if you don't

2876
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:47,280
have trust in that then you don't have

2877
01:50:50,470 --> 01:50:49,280
trust really in the foundational

2878
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:50,480
principles of the united states of

2879
01:50:54,709 --> 01:50:51,920
america

2880
01:50:57,030 --> 01:50:54,719
just like give it up and how do we start

2881
01:50:59,990 --> 01:50:57,040
to uh

2882
01:51:01,830 --> 01:51:00,000
not necessarily put the car in reverse

2883
01:51:03,589 --> 01:51:01,840
to use that analogy again when it comes

2884
01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:03,599
to conspiracy theory

2885
01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:07,360
but how do we educate people on how to

2886
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:10,080
understand conspiracy theory as opposed

2887
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:12,239
to going into a cancer culture

2888
01:51:16,870 --> 01:51:14,400
and saying that all all of this is wrong

2889
01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:16,880
and you you're going to be de-platformed

2890
01:51:21,589 --> 01:51:20,080
how do we do the right thing and well

2891
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:21,599
i've been trying this is what i've been

2892
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:23,360
trying to do for over 20 years and

2893
01:51:27,589 --> 01:51:26,000
to talk about cover-ups and conspiracies

2894
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:27,599
in a way that can be supported by

2895
01:51:31,669 --> 01:51:28,960
evidence

2896
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:31,679
and that's really what i try to do and

2897
01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:33,360
whether i succeed or not that's up to

2898
01:51:35,750 --> 01:51:33,840
readers

2899
01:51:37,750 --> 01:51:35,760
and followers to decide but that's what

2900
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:37,760
that's always what i've tried to do

2901
01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:41,040
so you make evidence-based arguments and

2902
01:51:44,310 --> 01:51:42,480
and then you let the chips fall where

2903
01:51:46,229 --> 01:51:44,320
they fall

2904
01:51:47,830 --> 01:51:46,239
i don't know of any other way to do it

2905
01:51:49,030 --> 01:51:47,840
now what i thought you were going to say

2906
01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:49,040
was something different i thought you

2907
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:51,440
were going to say like where

2908
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:54,400
where will people go how how will we put

2909
01:51:59,430 --> 01:51:56,080
the gear in reverse

2910
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:59,440
against this assault on freedom of

2911
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:00,320
discourse which is

2912
01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:03,679
really what we're seeing right um and

2913
01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:05,040
maybe a month or two ago i would have

2914
01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:06,960
said well you know people have the

2915
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:09,040
ability to go to other platforms like

2916
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:13,520
don't support facebook if if you

2917
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:16,080
you know believe that they are

2918
01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:17,360
inhibiting your

2919
01:52:20,790 --> 01:52:18,880
your right to say certain things and

2920
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:20,800
there are many people who believe that

2921
01:52:26,229 --> 01:52:24,239
but the fact is that alternative venues

2922
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:26,239
are it doesn't look very it's not going

2923
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:27,520
to be an easy game for them

2924
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:29,760
like in alternative social media where

2925
01:52:32,149 --> 01:52:31,119
is that going to come from a competitor

2926
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:32,159
to facebook

2927
01:52:35,589 --> 01:52:33,599
competitors to twitter well we thought

2928
01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:35,599
that was going to happen but that's

2929
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:37,520
that is going to be a non-starter very

2930
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:38,880
probably so

2931
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:40,239
they they've become effectively

2932
01:52:43,990 --> 01:52:42,400
monopolies in this last week

2933
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:44,000
you know so i don't know where people

2934
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:45,520
are going to go and if it's

2935
01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:48,960
even going to be possible however

2936
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:56,070
you know there's a lot of dissatisfied

2937
01:53:00,790 --> 01:52:57,040
people

2938
01:53:02,709 --> 01:53:00,800
right and they feel that

2939
01:53:05,830 --> 01:53:02,719
they don't have a voice that they're not

2940
01:53:09,589 --> 01:53:05,840
able to have their voice expressed

2941
01:53:12,550 --> 01:53:09,599
they feel um afraid

2942
01:53:14,390 --> 01:53:12,560
to speak their mind i mean i'll be

2943
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:14,400
perfectly honest with you i am afraid

2944
01:53:17,990 --> 01:53:16,639
frequently to speak my mind i mean i'm

2945
01:53:20,070 --> 01:53:18,000
i'm in a public

2946
01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:20,080
position you and i have talked about

2947
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:22,800
this many many many many many times yeah

2948
01:53:26,390 --> 01:53:23,679
privately we have

2949
01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:26,400
yes yes and maybe publicly too but now

2950
01:53:29,669 --> 01:53:27,599
we've you and i have had private

2951
01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:29,679
conversations about this and

2952
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:31,440
i mean it it has scared me to death on

2953
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:32,960
many occasions like

2954
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:36,480
one misstep but uh i can't

2955
01:53:40,950 --> 01:53:39,360
let that guide me ultimately but it it's

2956
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:40,960
always there but for so many other

2957
01:53:43,109 --> 01:53:41,760
people

2958
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:43,119
like they've got jobs to worry about

2959
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:44,719
they've got they've got their careers

2960
01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:45,840
they've got their family and all these

2961
01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:48,239
other things to worry about and

2962
01:53:53,589 --> 01:53:51,440
they are afraid

2963
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:53,599
and so now what's going to happen with

2964
01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:55,520
with all of that energy and

2965
01:53:59,830 --> 01:53:58,400
and the problem with d platforming

2966
01:54:01,350 --> 01:53:59,840
thousands and thousands of people i

2967
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:01,360
don't is it millions of people i don't

2968
01:54:05,109 --> 01:54:02,880
know but when you de-platform

2969
01:54:06,950 --> 01:54:05,119
what seems to be an entire movement

2970
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:06,960
based on ideology which is really what

2971
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:09,280
this does look like

2972
01:54:17,350 --> 01:54:13,520
then you're giving that opposition

2973
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:17,360
no ability to dissent openly

2974
01:54:22,310 --> 01:54:19,360
using words that's right so what are you

2975
01:54:22,870 --> 01:54:22,320
doing now you're radicalizing them even

2976
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:22,880
further

2977
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:25,199
underground that's right and so you're

2978
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:27,280
making a bad situation worse

2979
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:30,080
like the solution to this is by more

2980
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:30,960
discussion not

2981
01:54:36,470 --> 01:54:34,000
less discussion and by actually trying

2982
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:36,480
to understand each other this morning i

2983
01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:37,360
listened

2984
01:54:40,629 --> 01:54:40,320
again to amy goodman of democracy now uh

2985
01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:40,639
some

2986
01:54:44,470 --> 01:54:42,000
i've listened to her on and off for

2987
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:44,480
years i know what she's about she's

2988
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:46,560
very much on the left i listen to her

2989
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:47,679
take on

2990
01:54:52,870 --> 01:54:51,280
uh dc um

2991
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:52,880
and while i didn't agree with everything

2992
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:54,400
she said at least i can say

2993
01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:57,440
i understand her emotions

2994
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:59,599
and that is important i've also listened

2995
01:55:03,189 --> 01:55:01,040
to people on the right

2996
01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:03,199
talking about the exact same event and

2997
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:05,440
hearing them talk about

2998
01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:08,560
false flags and antifa or blm and

2999
01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:10,400
inserting themselves into what happened

3000
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:12,159
on the sixth i don't know that that's

3001
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:12,639
true

3002
01:55:16,870 --> 01:55:15,280
but what i am saying is at least i'm

3003
01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:16,880
trying to be aware

3004
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:20,080
of of strong opinions on both sides of

3005
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:20,480
this

3006
01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:23,679
and it's not easy actually to do that

3007
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:24,159
but

3008
01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:26,480
it's something that we really have to do

3009
01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:27,840
because

3010
01:55:33,189 --> 01:55:30,800
you know when lincoln was elected to

3011
01:55:36,950 --> 01:55:33,199
presidency in 1860

3012
01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:36,960
his point to the states of the south who

3013
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:38,960
didn't vote for him at all of course he

3014
01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:40,239
said look you think you can

3015
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:42,880
you can move away from this nation but

3016
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:43,520
we can't

3017
01:55:49,910 --> 01:55:47,280
get away from each other like we're here

3018
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:49,920
and you are there and we are forever

3019
01:55:54,390 --> 01:55:51,119
going to be

3020
01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:54,400
right here so we've got to work this out

3021
01:55:58,709 --> 01:55:56,880
and that sentiment is every bit is true

3022
01:56:01,910 --> 01:55:58,719
today oh it's so strong

3023
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:01,920
we have got to find a way to

3024
01:56:08,950 --> 01:56:04,960
listen to each other and and not

3025
01:56:11,990 --> 01:56:08,960
reflexively to say you're full of bs

3026
01:56:14,070 --> 01:56:12,000
because that's that's the quickest way

3027
01:56:15,109 --> 01:56:14,080
to shut everything down you've got both

3028
01:56:16,870 --> 01:56:15,119
sides of this

3029
01:56:18,950 --> 01:56:16,880
are convinced that the other side is

3030
01:56:20,790 --> 01:56:18,960
trying to destroy them

3031
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:20,800
see it's not just one side that believes

3032
01:56:24,629 --> 01:56:22,159
it both sides believe this

3033
01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:24,639
and this audience needs to really

3034
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:25,280
understand

3035
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:28,560
one thing um richard and i

3036
01:56:35,669 --> 01:56:32,320
right now are having a conversation

3037
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:35,679
okay richard and i privately

3038
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:38,080
disagree and go right to the edge of

3039
01:56:42,310 --> 01:56:39,040
arguing

3040
01:56:45,669 --> 01:56:42,320
a lot right yes a lot that's true

3041
01:56:48,470 --> 01:56:45,679
but we respect each other you know

3042
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:48,480
and and that that's the part that's lost

3043
01:56:51,189 --> 01:56:49,440
here

3044
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:51,199
you know you may not be able to change

3045
01:56:56,149 --> 01:56:53,599
somebody's mind and i understand that

3046
01:56:59,109 --> 01:56:56,159
and people are so entrenched today

3047
01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:59,119
but we have to listen we have to we have

3048
01:57:02,149 --> 01:57:00,400
to be able to meet somewhere in the

3049
01:57:04,550 --> 01:57:02,159
middle it's the only way to go

3050
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:04,560
forward we can't go backwards now can we

3051
01:57:07,189 --> 01:57:05,520
richard

3052
01:57:09,669 --> 01:57:07,199
i grew up with a liberal mother and a

3053
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:09,679
conservative father oh that was my house

3054
01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:13,199
there you go i i was very used to uh

3055
01:57:16,310 --> 01:57:15,280
these types of disagreements so for me

3056
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:16,320
it's it's i can

3057
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:19,440
i get both sides usually um

3058
01:57:24,310 --> 01:57:22,320
when we come back after the break um i

3059
01:57:25,589 --> 01:57:24,320
want to talk about something that i saw

3060
01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:25,599
yesterday

3061
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:28,320
uh that was absolutely remarkable and

3062
01:57:31,910 --> 01:57:29,440
it's a video

3063
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:31,920
maybe you have seen it richard of alex

3064
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:33,199
jones

3065
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:36,400
going off on a

3066
01:57:40,990 --> 01:57:39,520
q a guest on his show and i heard about

3067
01:57:43,669 --> 01:57:41,000
this i didn't see it

3068
01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:43,679
holy crap

3069
01:57:48,149 --> 01:57:46,960
and so um what he said you know the q

3070
01:57:50,229 --> 01:57:48,159
anon's all lies

3071
01:57:52,310 --> 01:57:50,239
we'll discuss this after the break but

3072
01:57:54,950 --> 01:57:52,320
right q anon also got

3073
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:54,960
entrenched in in 2020. i didn't think

3074
01:57:57,189 --> 01:57:55,599
anybody

3075
01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:57,199
really expected that and to see it

3076
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:58,719
happen like it did

3077
01:58:02,950 --> 01:58:01,840
and now q anon has disappeared and those

3078
01:58:04,310 --> 01:58:02,960
q anon

3079
01:58:06,310 --> 01:58:04,320
supporters out there because there's no

3080
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:06,320
q post there's nothing happening and

3081
01:58:08,149 --> 01:58:07,599
everything that was predicted didn't

3082
01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:08,159
happen

3083
01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:10,159
as far as i know jfk did not get on

3084
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:11,840
trump's ticket in dallas

3085
01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:15,040
right and uh jfk jr and

3086
01:58:21,109 --> 01:58:18,840
and so for all of those how

3087
01:58:22,390 --> 01:58:21,119
do how do they deal with that

3088
01:58:24,149 --> 01:58:22,400
emotionally

3089
01:58:25,669 --> 01:58:24,159
how do they deal i mean where their

3090
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world is suddenly pulled out from

3091
01:58:29,030 --> 01:58:27,119
underneath them this is something else

3092
01:58:32,149 --> 01:58:29,040
that we're going to have to deal with

3093
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:32,159
the q people and others that go in fully

3094
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:35,760
with these conspiracy theories

3095
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all right so we're gonna do that when we

3096
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get back yes we do i'm watching richard

3097
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he's

3098
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this is fade to black i am your host

3099
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jimmy church our guest tonight

3100
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richard bleep and dolan follow richard

3101
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3178
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3179
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3180
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[Music]

3181
02:02:44,830 --> 02:02:42,880
welcome back fade to black i'm nervous

3182
02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:44,840
jimmy chairs tonight richard bleep and

3183
02:02:48,470 --> 02:02:46,719
dolan

3184
02:02:49,750 --> 02:02:48,480
i'm going to throw richard under the bus

3185
02:02:53,270 --> 02:02:49,760
he texted me

3186
02:02:53,750 --> 02:02:53,280
he said hey man can we do just one more

3187
02:02:55,990 --> 02:02:53,760
segment

3188
02:02:57,589 --> 02:02:56,000
i said yeah absolutely i'm not going to

3189
02:02:58,870 --> 02:02:57,599
mention anything to the audience and

3190
02:03:00,870 --> 02:02:58,880
inflame them

3191
02:03:01,990 --> 02:03:00,880
and uh i would never do that richard i

3192
02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:02,000
would never get

3193
02:03:08,310 --> 02:03:05,040
the audience to uh start tweeting

3194
02:03:09,830 --> 02:03:08,320
that uh and put you in a put you in an

3195
02:03:13,109 --> 02:03:09,840
uncomfortable position

3196
02:03:15,189 --> 02:03:13,119
but um alex

3197
02:03:17,430 --> 02:03:15,199
jones did just that right the big

3198
02:03:21,030 --> 02:03:17,440
conspiracy theory guy

3199
02:03:23,669 --> 02:03:21,040
to go and just disenfranchise you know

3200
02:03:24,390 --> 02:03:23,679
uh like half or maybe his entire

3201
02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:24,400
audience

3202
02:03:28,070 --> 02:03:25,840
with that yesterday a little bit of

3203
02:03:28,629 --> 02:03:28,080
mainstream media love for that too or at

3204
02:03:31,910 --> 02:03:28,639
least

3205
02:03:33,589 --> 02:03:31,920
he did oh well maybe he'll get his

3206
02:03:35,589 --> 02:03:33,599
youtube channel back

3207
02:03:37,109 --> 02:03:35,599
maybe that's right maybe that's the move

3208
02:03:41,030 --> 02:03:37,119
is is that

3209
02:03:44,149 --> 02:03:41,040
i don't know well um there's um

3210
02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:44,159
there's a money flow there right

3211
02:03:49,270 --> 02:03:47,440
where you you he's

3212
02:03:51,270 --> 02:03:49,280
he's got a network he's got a show he's

3213
02:03:51,910 --> 02:03:51,280
got products he's got his store he's got

3214
02:03:53,830 --> 02:03:51,920
all of this

3215
02:03:54,950 --> 02:03:53,840
exactly and you're turning around and

3216
02:03:57,830 --> 02:03:54,960
doing that

3217
02:03:58,629 --> 02:03:57,840
is it a point where maybe an age where

3218
02:04:01,189 --> 02:03:58,639
you s

3219
02:04:03,430 --> 02:04:01,199
you just don't care anymore that you

3220
02:04:05,270 --> 02:04:03,440
you're going to speak the truth

3221
02:04:08,229 --> 02:04:05,280
no matter how painful it is to rip off

3222
02:04:12,629 --> 02:04:10,629
well it could be that uh he could have

3223
02:04:15,750 --> 02:04:12,639
that could be a genuine thing about him

3224
02:04:16,550 --> 02:04:15,760
um or it could it could just be the fact

3225
02:04:21,510 --> 02:04:16,560
that he

3226
02:04:23,830 --> 02:04:21,520
massive financial hit

3227
02:04:25,350 --> 02:04:23,840
over the last couple of years and he

3228
02:04:26,790 --> 02:04:25,360
maybe he's using an opportunity to get

3229
02:04:27,990 --> 02:04:26,800
back into the good graces

3230
02:04:29,750 --> 02:04:28,000
with the establishment or at least

3231
02:04:31,510 --> 02:04:29,760
better grace i don't know i'm i can't

3232
02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:31,520
really speak for him at all

3233
02:04:34,629 --> 02:04:34,000
but it is interesting uh that he went

3234
02:04:36,550 --> 02:04:34,639
right after

3235
02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:36,560
q and he's like i want no part of that

3236
02:04:39,510 --> 02:04:37,920
or towards

3237
02:04:41,830 --> 02:04:39,520
that effect yeah he threw his head in

3238
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:41,840
his hands and and just said i can't take

3239
02:04:45,990 --> 02:04:42,800
it anymore

3240
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:46,000
yeah you know i just can't take it um uh

3241
02:04:49,750 --> 02:04:47,920
earlier i'm going to take this

3242
02:04:52,069 --> 02:04:49,760
opportunity in this last segment we

3243
02:04:53,510 --> 02:04:52,079
started to get into some definitions and

3244
02:04:55,350 --> 02:04:53,520
one of the things uh

3245
02:04:57,589 --> 02:04:55,360
in social media today i see it

3246
02:05:00,629 --> 02:04:57,599
everywhere i i post whatever

3247
02:05:02,870 --> 02:05:00,639
i post ice cream cones and

3248
02:05:05,189 --> 02:05:02,880
oh you're a communist it's like dude

3249
02:05:06,950 --> 02:05:05,199
stop stop stop with that

3250
02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:06,960
but literally ice cream cones or you're

3251
02:05:11,589 --> 02:05:09,360
just using some example

3252
02:05:12,790 --> 02:05:11,599
no richard it didn't happen but it could

3253
02:05:15,669 --> 02:05:12,800
you want me to do it

3254
02:05:17,270 --> 02:05:15,679
i could do it right now in real time but

3255
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:17,280
is that a meme i just hadn't caught up

3256
02:05:19,669 --> 02:05:17,920
with that's

3257
02:05:21,030 --> 02:05:19,679
right does that mean something but

3258
02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:21,040
that's where we are today

3259
02:05:25,270 --> 02:05:23,840
right it's it's like it's it's it's it's

3260
02:05:28,149 --> 02:05:25,280
crazy town

3261
02:05:29,109 --> 02:05:28,159
and you're a historian what's your

3262
02:05:33,350 --> 02:05:29,119
definition

3263
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:37,990
okay well a

3264
02:05:43,589 --> 02:05:40,950
requirement that individuals within a

3265
02:05:47,430 --> 02:05:43,599
given society or community

3266
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:47,440
are provided let's say roughly equal

3267
02:05:54,229 --> 02:05:50,800
material goods and outcomes in their

3268
02:05:58,229 --> 02:05:54,239
in their life so people people living

3269
02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:58,239
as equals economically

3270
02:06:02,069 --> 02:06:00,960
as well as any other measurable way

3271
02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:02,079
enforced equality

3272
02:06:07,589 --> 02:06:05,280
basically is communism do you see that

3273
02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:07,599
ever as a possibility in the future of

3274
02:06:12,709 --> 02:06:09,440
the united states

3275
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:12,719
not not in every way no um

3276
02:06:16,709 --> 02:06:14,960
there's always going to be well in every

3277
02:06:17,589 --> 02:06:16,719
communist society there was still first

3278
02:06:19,510 --> 02:06:17,599
class

3279
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:19,520
and the rest and you know the soviets

3280
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:21,360
were notorious for having

3281
02:06:26,390 --> 02:06:24,400
uh very unequal

3282
02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:26,400
uh modes of living for the the party of

3283
02:06:30,629 --> 02:06:28,480
bosses and everyone else so

3284
02:06:32,550 --> 02:06:30,639
uh there's no society you know orwell's

3285
02:06:34,229 --> 02:06:32,560
animal farm is a great

3286
02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:34,239
a great study in this some animals are

3287
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:36,320
more equal than others

3288
02:06:39,910 --> 02:06:38,320
but i think in some ways we could see

3289
02:06:41,990 --> 02:06:39,920
that in

3290
02:06:42,950 --> 02:06:42,000
in the western world yes i think that's

3291
02:06:45,830 --> 02:06:42,960
that's very likely

3292
02:06:46,550 --> 02:06:45,840
i mean look we're we're imploding our

3293
02:06:50,709 --> 02:06:46,560
economic

3294
02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:50,719
society right now all right so over 2020

3295
02:06:55,030 --> 02:06:53,440
um i don't know how many small

3296
02:06:57,750 --> 02:06:55,040
businesses are ever going to come back

3297
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:57,760
over the closings that we've seen i mean

3298
02:07:00,950 --> 02:06:58,560
the estimates

3299
02:07:01,669 --> 02:07:00,960
the last i heard were 50 are not going

3300
02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:01,679
to come back

3301
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:03,760
right maybe it's going to be more than

3302
02:07:06,950 --> 02:07:05,040
that um

3303
02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:06,960
there are so many jobs that are gone now

3304
02:07:10,709 --> 02:07:09,440
that will not come back cashiers

3305
02:07:13,430 --> 02:07:10,719
it might be one of the most popular jobs

3306
02:07:16,470 --> 02:07:13,440
in the country that's going away

3307
02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:16,480
in a large measure now not

3308
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:18,480
entirely but a lot of those jobs are

3309
02:07:24,870 --> 02:07:20,320
gone and will continue to be

3310
02:07:26,310 --> 02:07:24,880
gone warehouse workers and

3311
02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:26,320
you know like a whole bunch of

3312
02:07:32,390 --> 02:07:28,880
interactive like working-class

3313
02:07:33,109 --> 02:07:32,400
jobs are many of them are not going to

3314
02:07:35,510 --> 02:07:33,119
come back

3315
02:07:36,470 --> 02:07:35,520
so we're moving into a new economy and

3316
02:07:38,470 --> 02:07:36,480
we're

3317
02:07:40,629 --> 02:07:38,480
at a point where you know just a year

3318
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:40,639
ago before this pandemic

3319
02:07:45,189 --> 02:07:43,840
started the whole idea of universal

3320
02:07:47,589 --> 02:07:45,199
basic income was still an

3321
02:07:49,270 --> 02:07:47,599
outlier i mean there was andrew yang

3322
02:07:51,109 --> 02:07:49,280
talking about it it's true but

3323
02:07:52,830 --> 02:07:51,119
no one was really looking at it as a

3324
02:07:55,589 --> 02:07:52,840
serious thing

3325
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:55,599
um but now they are

3326
02:07:59,189 --> 02:07:57,199
and the reason is that we're going to

3327
02:08:02,550 --> 02:07:59,199
have a massive

3328
02:08:04,069 --> 02:08:02,560
group of people who will be structurally

3329
02:08:05,270 --> 02:08:04,079
unemployed and and eventually

3330
02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:05,280
unemployable

3331
02:08:09,189 --> 02:08:07,360
because in this economic game of musical

3332
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:09,199
chairs too many chairs are being taken

3333
02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:10,000
out of the room

3334
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:12,719
and there's just not enough for people

3335
02:08:15,430 --> 02:08:13,840
to sit in so

3336
02:08:17,109 --> 02:08:15,440
what will we do with all these folks

3337
02:08:18,550 --> 02:08:17,119
well they're gonna have to be supported

3338
02:08:19,990 --> 02:08:18,560
somehow

3339
02:08:21,270 --> 02:08:20,000
and so what we're looking at is

3340
02:08:23,589 --> 02:08:21,280
essentially more and more people

3341
02:08:26,390 --> 02:08:23,599
becoming wards of the state

3342
02:08:27,830 --> 02:08:26,400
and i don't know what point that's going

3343
02:08:29,430 --> 02:08:27,840
to get to

3344
02:08:30,709 --> 02:08:29,440
but it's going to become a significant

3345
02:08:32,470 --> 02:08:30,719
or at least potentially it could be a

3346
02:08:34,550 --> 02:08:32,480
very significant part of the

3347
02:08:35,910 --> 02:08:34,560
world population there's just not going

3348
02:08:36,550 --> 02:08:35,920
to be anything for people to do i think

3349
02:08:37,910 --> 02:08:36,560
that's

3350
02:08:40,229 --> 02:08:37,920
part of what i was talking about this

3351
02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:40,239
fourth stage of humanity that this is

3352
02:08:43,750 --> 02:08:42,960
part of what i'm looking at um this is

3353
02:08:45,589 --> 02:08:43,760
why i

3354
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:45,599
foresee the potential of humanity in a

3355
02:08:50,149 --> 02:08:47,280
sense turning into a big ant hill

3356
02:08:50,790 --> 02:08:50,159
in the sense that when you are not

3357
02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:50,800
afforded

3358
02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:53,360
economic liberty you know we've been

3359
02:08:58,229 --> 02:08:54,960
talking about freedom of speech that's

3360
02:09:00,149 --> 02:08:58,239
very important but maybe even more

3361
02:09:00,950 --> 02:09:00,159
important than that or at least of equal

3362
02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:00,960
importance

3363
02:09:06,069 --> 02:09:04,000
is economic freedom the freedom for you

3364
02:09:08,470 --> 02:09:06,079
and me and everyone listening to be able

3365
02:09:10,470 --> 02:09:08,480
to have at least the opportunity

3366
02:09:11,830 --> 02:09:10,480
to determine their own financial fate

3367
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:11,840
and their future

3368
02:09:16,550 --> 02:09:14,880
and that that means by if they wanted to

3369
02:09:17,350 --> 02:09:16,560
you know strike out on their own with a

3370
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:17,360
business

3371
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:20,560
or an opportunity well those

3372
02:09:24,950 --> 02:09:21,520
opportunities

3373
02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:24,960
are diminishing also now for a while

3374
02:09:27,189 --> 02:09:26,480
they were they were kind of growing

3375
02:09:29,109 --> 02:09:27,199
digitally

3376
02:09:30,709 --> 02:09:29,119
like people could go onto youtube and

3377
02:09:32,310 --> 02:09:30,719
try to make money that way

3378
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,320
but i think we're seeing that

3379
02:09:36,709 --> 02:09:34,320
restricting more and more also

3380
02:09:37,990 --> 02:09:36,719
and in the traditional economy that's

3381
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:38,000
definitely becoming

3382
02:09:41,750 --> 02:09:39,760
less and less of a thing that people can

3383
02:09:43,510 --> 02:09:41,760
do you have fewer and fewer corporations

3384
02:09:46,629 --> 02:09:43,520
owning more and more market share

3385
02:09:48,069 --> 02:09:46,639
in any industry you can think of and so

3386
02:09:49,189 --> 02:09:48,079
if someone wants to get a job in that

3387
02:09:50,629 --> 02:09:49,199
industry chances are they're going to

3388
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:50,639
have to do it through a major

3389
02:09:55,990 --> 02:09:53,840
or a significant corporation so so the

3390
02:09:58,069 --> 02:09:56,000
wiggle room for people economically is

3391
02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:58,079
also diminishing

3392
02:10:01,750 --> 02:09:59,360
so in that kind of society you're

3393
02:10:04,069 --> 02:10:01,760
talking about communism

3394
02:10:06,069 --> 02:10:04,079
not exactly but i do think that we're

3395
02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:06,079
seeing a society in which there's

3396
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:09,040
much less economic initiative that will

3397
02:10:14,470 --> 02:10:10,960
be enabled for people to have

3398
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:14,480
okay i'm tweeting out now

3399
02:10:20,629 --> 02:10:17,920
pecan pie okay there you go

3400
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:20,639
that's my tweet pecan pie and let's see

3401
02:10:25,350 --> 02:10:21,760
what the first piece

3402
02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:25,360
yeah socialist

3403
02:10:30,709 --> 02:10:28,480
i'm a socialist richard

3404
02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:30,719
what just happened here yeah i i'm now

3405
02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:32,159
because i said pecan pie

3406
02:10:35,189 --> 02:10:34,079
i'm i'm a socialist what help me

3407
02:10:38,069 --> 02:10:35,199
understand

3408
02:10:39,510 --> 02:10:38,079
because i'm confused what is socialism

3409
02:10:42,390 --> 02:10:39,520
what is a socialist

3410
02:10:43,589 --> 02:10:42,400
well it's a little more of a uh flexible

3411
02:10:47,109 --> 02:10:43,599
thing to describe

3412
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:47,119
um you know socialism i think the way

3413
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:48,560
it's come

3414
02:10:52,149 --> 02:10:51,520
you know in the old days i mean uh

3415
02:10:55,350 --> 02:10:52,159
vladimir

3416
02:10:58,149 --> 02:10:55,360
juliana of aka lenin saw socialism as

3417
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:58,159
simply the next step toward communism

3418
02:11:02,310 --> 02:11:00,960
but i think what we've we've come to

3419
02:11:06,229 --> 02:11:02,320
understand socialism as

3420
02:11:07,910 --> 02:11:06,239
is is communism without the dictatorship

3421
02:11:10,870 --> 02:11:07,920
so i think that's what what people will

3422
02:11:13,030 --> 02:11:10,880
generally think of so

3423
02:11:14,870 --> 02:11:13,040
now that's a hard thing to do because

3424
02:11:17,830 --> 02:11:14,880
any any act of

3425
02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:17,840
enforcing economic equality is going to

3426
02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:19,599
be an act of coercion

3427
02:11:26,709 --> 02:11:23,440
it is impossible to enforce

3428
02:11:28,870 --> 02:11:26,719
uh inequality of outcome without

3429
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:28,880
without the central hand of the state

3430
02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:29,920
forcing that

3431
02:11:33,189 --> 02:11:31,920
it's it's literally impossible otherwise

3432
02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:33,199
so there's

3433
02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:35,360
but there are socialistic things that

3434
02:11:39,430 --> 02:11:36,880
some societies do you know

3435
02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:39,440
whether it's universal healthcare is

3436
02:11:43,990 --> 02:11:41,280
that socialism well i'll go okay

3437
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:44,000
sure i'm sure why not so there are

3438
02:11:48,709 --> 02:11:45,760
socialistic things

3439
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:48,719
that capitalistic societies can afford

3440
02:11:51,270 --> 02:11:49,360
to do

3441
02:11:52,790 --> 02:11:51,280
because they're wealthy enough mainly

3442
02:11:54,149 --> 02:11:52,800
because they have free enterprise

3443
02:11:56,390 --> 02:11:54,159
and they can generate wealth and they

3444
02:11:58,709 --> 02:11:56,400
can pay for certain

3445
02:12:00,390 --> 02:11:58,719
socialistic outcomes certain safety nets

3446
02:12:02,149 --> 02:12:00,400
which i think most of us all of us

3447
02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:02,159
probably agree are a good thing i

3448
02:12:06,310 --> 02:12:04,400
certainly feel that social safety nets

3449
02:12:06,709 --> 02:12:06,320
are a very good thing and a necessary

3450
02:12:09,430 --> 02:12:06,719
thing

3451
02:12:11,589 --> 02:12:09,440
so if we support that if we had uh

3452
02:12:13,589 --> 02:12:11,599
universal health care paid for the uh

3453
02:12:17,510 --> 02:12:13,599
for the government by the government

3454
02:12:20,950 --> 02:12:19,589
no i don't know that's that's a tricky

3455
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:20,960
thing i don't know how i would feel

3456
02:12:25,430 --> 02:12:21,599
about that

3457
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:25,440
um you could say that's a socialistic

3458
02:12:29,430 --> 02:12:28,800
policy does that make the whole society

3459
02:12:32,870 --> 02:12:29,440
socialist

3460
02:12:35,270 --> 02:12:32,880
no it doesn't if the society is still

3461
02:12:37,510 --> 02:12:35,280
employing free enterprise or

3462
02:12:40,310 --> 02:12:37,520
capitalistic means of making its money

3463
02:12:42,550 --> 02:12:40,320
in other areas then i would say it's not

3464
02:12:44,629 --> 02:12:42,560
at least not entirely socialist

3465
02:12:46,629 --> 02:12:44,639
i don't think i'd be accurate but but

3466
02:12:48,069 --> 02:12:46,639
certainly a universal health care is a

3467
02:12:51,109 --> 02:12:48,079
socialistic policy

3468
02:12:51,830 --> 02:12:51,119
and i don't say that's necessarily a bad

3469
02:12:53,430 --> 02:12:51,840
thing i mean

3470
02:12:54,950 --> 02:12:53,440
you can make an argument for you could

3471
02:12:57,430 --> 02:12:54,960
also make an argument for just

3472
02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:57,440
taking out all the insurance companies

3473
02:13:00,629 --> 02:12:58,000
which

3474
02:13:01,750 --> 02:13:00,639
have absolutely jacked up the price of

3475
02:13:03,669 --> 02:13:01,760
medical care

3476
02:13:05,750 --> 02:13:03,679
ridiculously just as the student loan

3477
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:05,760
industry has jacked up the price of

3478
02:13:09,669 --> 02:13:07,920
education ridiculously

3479
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:09,679
i mean that's that's an open and shut

3480
02:13:14,870 --> 02:13:12,000
case they've done a great deal of harm

3481
02:13:16,709 --> 02:13:14,880
to both of those industries but in lieu

3482
02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:16,719
of taking them out and having the market

3483
02:13:19,510 --> 02:13:18,159
work like that's never going to happen

3484
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:19,520
so

3485
02:13:25,109 --> 02:13:23,840
universal healthcare

3486
02:13:27,030 --> 02:13:25,119
i think it's better than what the united

3487
02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:27,040
states is currently using i

3488
02:13:31,589 --> 02:13:29,440
i don't i'm not a fan of the united

3489
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:31,599
states healthcare system at all

3490
02:13:36,310 --> 02:13:34,320
um but i don't think it makes a country

3491
02:13:37,430 --> 02:13:36,320
socialist per se no i guess i would push

3492
02:13:40,149 --> 02:13:37,440
back against them

3493
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:40,159
i just tweeted out double cheeseburgers

3494
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:41,280
just went out

3495
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:43,199
you bastard can i say that word on your

3496
02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:45,119
show yes nothing i just did

3497
02:13:49,430 --> 02:13:47,119
i'm a fan but is that going to get you

3498
02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:49,440
dinged yeah i'm a fascist

3499
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:51,679
you know and and and again it's such

3500
02:13:55,750 --> 02:13:52,960
it's such

3501
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:55,760
um it looks like you're losing your mind

3502
02:13:58,950 --> 02:13:57,040
i know i know i know i know

3503
02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:58,960
you remember the movie and cheeseburger

3504
02:14:03,350 --> 02:14:00,079
what's up with church

3505
02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:03,360
you remember the movie uh princess bride

3506
02:14:06,390 --> 02:14:04,960
yes that was a fun movie yeah one of the

3507
02:14:07,990 --> 02:14:06,400
best quotes in the movie i don't think

3508
02:14:11,589 --> 02:14:08,000
you know what that word means

3509
02:14:13,830 --> 02:14:11,599
yes right right and fascist

3510
02:14:15,430 --> 02:14:13,840
wha what what does that mean well that

3511
02:14:16,870 --> 02:14:15,440
word's been completely obliterated in

3512
02:14:19,030 --> 02:14:16,880
the last five years

3513
02:14:20,790 --> 02:14:19,040
i mean it has no meaning anymore yeah

3514
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:20,800
especially the last seven days

3515
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:22,800
too as well uh that's exactly right yeah

3516
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:25,360
people you know it's just uh it's

3517
02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:27,280
it's absurd to hear how people use that

3518
02:14:31,109 --> 02:14:28,880
word now

3519
02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:31,119
um but there is such a thing as fascism

3520
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:32,880
you know to almost 20 years ago i wrote

3521
02:14:36,310 --> 02:14:33,760
an article

3522
02:14:37,990 --> 02:14:36,320
this is in the early w bush years

3523
02:14:40,069 --> 02:14:38,000
shortly after 9 11.

3524
02:14:41,430 --> 02:14:40,079
and i i wrote an article trying to

3525
02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:41,440
introduce a phrase called invisible

3526
02:14:44,950 --> 02:14:42,719
fascism

3527
02:14:46,629 --> 02:14:44,960
it didn't really go anywhere but but i

3528
02:14:47,270 --> 02:14:46,639
think it's still a valid idea like in

3529
02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:47,280
other words

3530
02:14:52,069 --> 02:14:49,040
i i was asking a question this is back

3531
02:14:55,030 --> 02:14:52,079
in 0.203 i don't know

3532
02:14:55,510 --> 02:14:55,040
i said can you live in a fascist society

3533
02:15:00,310 --> 02:14:55,520
without

3534
02:15:01,830 --> 02:15:00,320
knowing it like fascism of the 1930s

3535
02:15:03,830 --> 02:15:01,840
that was in your face that's hitler's

3536
02:15:06,950 --> 02:15:03,840
brown shirts mussolini's black shirts

3537
02:15:08,229 --> 02:15:06,960
they wore uniforms they gave it to you

3538
02:15:09,750 --> 02:15:08,239
you knew it yes

3539
02:15:11,270 --> 02:15:09,760
it raids the whole thing like this is

3540
02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:11,280
fascism um

3541
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:14,239
but but fascism became a very bad thing

3542
02:15:18,149 --> 02:15:15,280
after world war ii

3543
02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:18,159
obviously and so but that didn't mean

3544
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:18,480
that

3545
02:15:24,310 --> 02:15:22,000
our society went away

3546
02:15:25,910 --> 02:15:24,320
and so you know in the aftermath of 9 11

3547
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:25,920
in the usa patriot act i was looking

3548
02:15:28,790 --> 02:15:27,119
around at the united states thinking

3549
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:28,800
what the hell has happened to my country

3550
02:15:31,910 --> 02:15:31,280
have we moved into a mode of fascism in

3551
02:15:34,310 --> 02:15:31,920
a way

3552
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,320
and my answer was yeah we have partially

3553
02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:36,400
i agree with that

3554
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:39,119
so i said is this and and but it's a

3555
02:15:44,310 --> 02:15:40,480
situation where people don't

3556
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:44,320
know it and that's the best way to do it

3557
02:15:48,229 --> 02:15:46,000
let me back up i'm going to remind you

3558
02:15:49,990 --> 02:15:48,239
of something richard it wasn't 9 11 that

3559
02:15:53,669 --> 02:15:50,000
was the big turn

3560
02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:53,679
it wasn't it was the unabomber

3561
02:15:58,310 --> 02:15:56,239
you need to back up okay back up about

3562
02:16:00,149 --> 02:15:58,320
five years take it back to the 90s i'm

3563
02:16:02,390 --> 02:16:00,159
not gonna arg too much against you here

3564
02:16:03,669 --> 02:16:02,400
yeah and the reason why the search was

3565
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:03,679
on for the unabomber

3566
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,920
right right and i'm flying around the

3567
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:07,760
country speaking every single week i'm

3568
02:16:13,069 --> 02:16:09,199
getting on a plane

3569
02:16:15,990 --> 02:16:13,079
and i'm up in sacramento and

3570
02:16:19,109 --> 02:16:16,000
1996 five six six

3571
02:16:21,109 --> 02:16:19,119
uh the search the search so

3572
02:16:23,030 --> 02:16:21,119
i'm up in sacramento flying back uh to

3573
02:16:26,310 --> 02:16:23,040
burbank i'm at the airport

3574
02:16:27,669 --> 02:16:26,320
when all of these uh law enforcement

3575
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:27,679
people came into the gate

3576
02:16:30,790 --> 02:16:30,079
area yes where we were sitting for the

3577
02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:30,800
plane

3578
02:16:35,190 --> 02:16:33,040
i've got my carry-on luggage and they

3579
02:16:36,549 --> 02:16:35,200
said they set up a table

3580
02:16:39,030 --> 02:16:36,559
in the middle of the in front of the

3581
02:16:40,790 --> 02:16:39,040
gate and said everybody put your bags up

3582
02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:40,800
here we're searching your bags i said no

3583
02:16:46,309 --> 02:16:41,920
you're not

3584
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:46,319
the plane

3585
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:49,200
i said what and this is the first time

3586
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:50,319
this has ever happened

3587
02:16:53,750 --> 02:16:53,040
right right i put my luggage up they go

3588
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:53,760
through my

3589
02:16:57,669 --> 02:16:55,519
briefcase they're going through

3590
02:17:00,950 --> 02:16:57,679
everything they have me open

3591
02:17:02,629 --> 02:17:00,960
and i was so offended i was so offended

3592
02:17:05,830 --> 02:17:02,639
they said no this is uh

3593
02:17:08,469 --> 02:17:05,840
the unabomber the eunuch what

3594
02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:08,479
and i got that was after that that's

3595
02:17:14,309 --> 02:17:11,040
when the bag searches at the airport

3596
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:14,319
became standard and it was way

3597
02:17:18,070 --> 02:17:16,800
before the patriot act it was way before

3598
02:17:19,750 --> 02:17:18,080
uh 9 11.

3599
02:17:21,509 --> 02:17:19,760
well that that's one that's one brick in

3600
02:17:24,150 --> 02:17:21,519
the wall you're describing and i'm

3601
02:17:25,349 --> 02:17:24,160
i think this but it warmed us up to it

3602
02:17:28,230 --> 02:17:25,359
is what i'm saying you don't

3603
02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:28,240
recognize it after oklahoma city's

3604
02:17:32,469 --> 02:17:29,840
bombing as well of the murrah building

3605
02:17:34,070 --> 02:17:32,479
yes um that was a little bit earlier

3606
02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:34,080
like there were a number of

3607
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:36,240
trigger events that prompted certain

3608
02:17:39,429 --> 02:17:37,599
reactions

3609
02:17:41,349 --> 02:17:39,439
i would still say though that it was 911

3610
02:17:42,629 --> 02:17:41,359
that was the big one and uh that's the

3611
02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:42,639
one that

3612
02:17:47,429 --> 02:17:45,679
activated and justified

3613
02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:47,439
i mean look the usa patriot act was

3614
02:17:51,830 --> 02:17:48,800
waiting in the wings

3615
02:17:55,429 --> 02:17:51,840
it was it was a softball see that as as

3616
02:17:56,309 --> 02:17:55,439
as rowdy and radical as it was we let it

3617
02:17:58,230 --> 02:17:56,319
happen

3618
02:18:00,230 --> 02:17:58,240
because of the things that were leading

3619
02:18:00,629 --> 02:18:00,240
up to that in the previous five six

3620
02:18:03,750 --> 02:18:00,639
seven

3621
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:03,760
eight years going back to following 911

3622
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:06,000
you have the anthrax scare and if i hope

3623
02:18:10,549 --> 02:18:07,679
people remember this because that

3624
02:18:12,549 --> 02:18:10,559
that that was one thing i did a whole uh

3625
02:18:14,709 --> 02:18:12,559
dive into for my series when i did that

3626
02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:14,719
for guy on false flags but

3627
02:18:18,389 --> 02:18:17,679
anyway point is yes una bomber i agree

3628
02:18:20,709 --> 02:18:18,399
with you

3629
02:18:21,990 --> 02:18:20,719
i would still say 911 was is the turning

3630
02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:22,000
point at which

3631
02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:25,280
the the rest of the world following it

3632
02:18:28,629 --> 02:18:27,840
like that's what brought the world into

3633
02:18:31,830 --> 02:18:28,639
open

3634
02:18:33,110 --> 02:18:31,840
surveillance like for the first time and

3635
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:33,120
also the suspension

3636
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:36,479
of uh a lot of the protections uh legal

3637
02:18:39,030 --> 02:18:38,080
protections that people had under

3638
02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:39,040
prosecution

3639
02:18:43,509 --> 02:18:41,519
like those ended with 9 11. the

3640
02:18:45,830 --> 02:18:43,519
definition of terrorism

3641
02:18:46,790 --> 02:18:45,840
changed after 9 11 as well and a lot of

3642
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:46,800
things

3643
02:18:52,230 --> 02:18:49,200
overtly it was like i described it once

3644
02:18:56,150 --> 02:18:52,240
as like a debutants coming out party

3645
02:18:59,349 --> 02:18:56,160
like you know the the

3646
02:19:00,870 --> 02:18:59,359
the creeping fascistic tendencies were

3647
02:19:02,870 --> 02:19:00,880
already there through the 90s

3648
02:19:05,349 --> 02:19:02,880
but 9 11 was the coming out it's like

3649
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:05,359
here we are it was like out in the open

3650
02:19:09,830 --> 02:19:07,120
all this all the surveillance that had

3651
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:09,840
been do done illegally in the past

3652
02:19:13,750 --> 02:19:12,719
was now made legal after 9 11. so it was

3653
02:19:17,030 --> 02:19:13,760
a kind of

3654
02:19:18,469 --> 02:19:17,040
um presentation of what was then the new

3655
02:19:20,389 --> 02:19:18,479
normal we didn't use that phrase back

3656
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:20,399
then but that was the first new normal

3657
02:19:24,389 --> 02:19:23,040
and now we're in another new normal and

3658
02:19:32,309 --> 02:19:24,399
today

3659
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:32,319
was announced uh on all of the networks

3660
02:19:38,870 --> 02:19:35,920
that uh violence

3661
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:38,880
is now going to be at all state capitals

3662
02:19:42,549 --> 02:19:39,840
between now

3663
02:19:43,589 --> 02:19:42,559
and the inauguration who actually

3664
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:43,599
believes this

3665
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:46,960
and why why why is that news what

3666
02:19:53,429 --> 02:19:50,240
what good is that

3667
02:19:55,830 --> 02:19:53,439
for the nation to hear right isn't that

3668
02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:55,840
isn't that a law enforcement issue that

3669
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:56,960
needs to be

3670
02:20:00,630 --> 02:19:58,640
handled behind the scenes this this

3671
02:20:03,429 --> 02:20:00,640
honestly strikes me as a psyop

3672
02:20:04,230 --> 02:20:03,439
right right against us that's really

3673
02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:04,240
what it

3674
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:05,760
i i heard about this earlier today as

3675
02:20:09,429 --> 02:20:07,680
well and i thought this is this is a

3676
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,439
psyop propaganda

3677
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:11,280
beat beach over the head with a hammer

3678
02:20:17,030 --> 02:20:13,120
type of thing it's a perfect

3679
02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:17,040
example of control right

3680
02:20:20,950 --> 02:20:18,640
you know uh in the beginning of this we

3681
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:20,960
were talking about comparing january 6

3682
02:20:24,790 --> 02:20:23,680
to 9 11 because people are making this

3683
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:24,800
comparison and it's

3684
02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:26,880
it's a ridiculous comparison it's not

3685
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:29,040
anything close to

3686
02:20:32,230 --> 02:20:31,120
what is different between now and 9 11

3687
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:32,240
though uh this

3688
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:35,040
this is actually really key when 9 11

3689
02:20:39,190 --> 02:20:37,040
happened the nation was like oh my god

3690
02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:39,200
terrorists from another country or other

3691
02:20:43,349 --> 02:20:40,000
countries

3692
02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:43,359
have attacked us we must unite together

3693
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:46,000
to fight this external threat so what's

3694
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:47,600
different now is that

3695
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:50,080
the the threat is internalized and so we

3696
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:51,760
are now officially divided against

3697
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:52,640
ourselves

3698
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:54,240
and half of the country has essentially

3699
02:20:57,270 --> 02:20:55,680
been turned into if not

3700
02:20:59,349 --> 02:20:57,280
open terrorists and terrorist

3701
02:21:00,630 --> 02:20:59,359
sympathizers uh frankly if they're

3702
02:21:01,429 --> 02:21:00,640
members of the republican party then

3703
02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:01,439
they're going to be terrorist

3704
02:21:04,389 --> 02:21:02,560
sympathizers that's

3705
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:04,399
that's literally the narrative now that

3706
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:05,840
we're seeing

3707
02:21:08,950 --> 02:21:07,600
and my democrat friends really need to

3708
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:08,960
understand this too

3709
02:21:11,990 --> 02:21:10,240
because i'm it's not like i'm trying to

3710
02:21:13,830 --> 02:21:12,000
take one side over another but

3711
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:13,840
if this were happening against democrats

3712
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:16,240
i would be absolutely just as indignant

3713
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:19,600
and just as afraid like this is bad

3714
02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:21,520
no matter how it's going down but we are

3715
02:21:26,070 --> 02:21:22,800
seeing

3716
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:26,080
a it's a psyop and

3717
02:21:33,110 --> 02:21:30,160
and the results of this are going to be

3718
02:21:34,950 --> 02:21:33,120
potentially every bit as bad or worse

3719
02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:34,960
than the results after 9 11 and those

3720
02:21:38,950 --> 02:21:36,880
results were bad

3721
02:21:40,469 --> 02:21:38,960
now one of the horrible results of 9 11

3722
02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:40,479
which we haven't discussed is

3723
02:21:43,429 --> 02:21:42,080
16 trillion dollars or more that the

3724
02:21:45,750 --> 02:21:43,439
united states military spend on

3725
02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:45,760
destroying other nations

3726
02:21:49,190 --> 02:21:47,280
uh so that's a horrible thing and

3727
02:21:49,830 --> 02:21:49,200
hopefully that won't be one result of

3728
02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:49,840
this

3729
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:53,600
but internally the results of 911 were

3730
02:21:57,190 --> 02:21:55,120
horrible and mendacious

3731
02:21:59,590 --> 02:21:57,200
and internally they looked to be every

3732
02:22:01,429 --> 02:21:59,600
bit every bit potentially as bad

3733
02:22:03,190 --> 02:22:01,439
as what we saw 20 years ago after that

3734
02:22:06,389 --> 02:22:03,200
event so

3735
02:22:07,830 --> 02:22:06,399
and and the cause is nowhere near

3736
02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:07,840
on the level of what happened on

3737
02:22:12,150 --> 02:22:09,840
september 11 2001.

3738
02:22:13,670 --> 02:22:12,160
so but we're looking at a reaction

3739
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:13,680
that's going to be

3740
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:16,720
at least it appears possible

3741
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:18,479
that the reaction could be every bit as

3742
02:22:24,230 --> 02:22:20,960
bad now january 20th

3743
02:22:28,630 --> 02:22:24,240
january 20th we're nine days away

3744
02:22:32,230 --> 02:22:28,640
that that comes and goes january 21st

3745
02:22:34,550 --> 02:22:32,240
does this nation have amnesia

3746
02:22:36,070 --> 02:22:34,560
in what way what do you mean did january

3747
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:36,080
6 happened

3748
02:22:43,190 --> 02:22:39,840
did we will we forget and forgive

3749
02:22:46,550 --> 02:22:43,200
yes i mean i don't know

3750
02:22:49,270 --> 02:22:46,560
um that would be nice like to just

3751
02:22:50,070 --> 02:22:49,280
kind of move on um i don't know that

3752
02:22:51,670 --> 02:22:50,080
that's going to happen

3753
02:22:53,510 --> 02:22:51,680
i i doubt that that will happen because

3754
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:53,520
there's there's always ring leaders

3755
02:22:57,349 --> 02:22:56,399
who want to stir the pot on both sides

3756
02:22:58,070 --> 02:22:57,359
so you're going to have people on the

3757
02:23:01,030 --> 02:22:58,080
right are going to be

3758
02:23:02,950 --> 02:23:01,040
ultra pissed because they feel they

3759
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:02,960
believe the election was stolen

3760
02:23:06,550 --> 02:23:04,960
there's a there's a hell of an argument

3761
02:23:09,830 --> 02:23:06,560
for that by the way i just want to

3762
02:23:11,270 --> 02:23:09,840
say this and i don't again i don't know

3763
02:23:12,790 --> 02:23:11,280
i've i've listened to people who've done

3764
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:12,800
deep dives into this and

3765
02:23:17,190 --> 02:23:14,720
i've listened to what their argument is

3766
02:23:18,870 --> 02:23:17,200
and they could be right

3767
02:23:20,469 --> 02:23:18,880
but the fact is we're not able to have a

3768
02:23:21,670 --> 02:23:20,479
discussion about it

3769
02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:21,680
that's the whole thing like that whole

3770
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:23,680
conversation has been shut out it's like

3771
02:23:28,389 --> 02:23:25,120
how dare you

3772
02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:28,399
implicate this election well i mean

3773
02:23:32,630 --> 02:23:30,800
honestly i don't think it's an

3774
02:23:34,070 --> 02:23:32,640
outrageous thing to ask

3775
02:23:37,349 --> 02:23:34,080
we've we've had questions about our

3776
02:23:42,150 --> 02:23:37,359
elections for generations now

3777
02:23:45,349 --> 02:23:42,160
we had 2000 we had 2004. i remember

3778
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:45,359
uh before keith olbermann fully lost his

3779
02:23:49,750 --> 02:23:46,000
mind

3780
02:23:51,510 --> 02:23:49,760
he was talking about potential uh

3781
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:51,520
you know problems in the state of ohio

3782
02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:53,200
in the 2004 election

3783
02:23:56,630 --> 02:23:55,520
and he had a point because the debuld

3784
02:23:57,750 --> 02:23:56,640
machines that were being used these

3785
02:24:00,150 --> 02:23:57,760
electronic machines

3786
02:24:00,870 --> 02:24:00,160
like they were not auditable that's a

3787
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:00,880
legit

3788
02:24:06,710 --> 02:24:04,160
concern and it's the same concern today

3789
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:06,720
why can't we talk about that no matter

3790
02:24:09,830 --> 02:24:08,080
what side you're on

3791
02:24:12,550 --> 02:24:09,840
like that's a legitimate thing to ask

3792
02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:12,560
about anyway my point is that

3793
02:24:16,710 --> 02:24:15,520
we're moving now i i don't know if it's

3794
02:24:18,950 --> 02:24:16,720
going to get

3795
02:24:19,910 --> 02:24:18,960
how much worse it will be when joe biden

3796
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:19,920
becomes president

3797
02:24:23,349 --> 02:24:22,000
like is it going to be open fascism no i

3798
02:24:26,870 --> 02:24:23,359
doubt that

3799
02:24:30,070 --> 02:24:26,880
doubted it under trump

3800
02:24:32,309 --> 02:24:30,080
but what we will see i think is

3801
02:24:34,150 --> 02:24:32,319
uh i mean look this is total

3802
02:24:36,150 --> 02:24:34,160
establishment now coming in it's not

3803
02:24:38,190 --> 02:24:36,160
it's not diluted establishment which was

3804
02:24:40,070 --> 02:24:38,200
what trump was trump still was very

3805
02:24:42,150 --> 02:24:40,080
establishment-oriented in his policies

3806
02:24:43,990 --> 02:24:42,160
in a lot of ways can be a billionaire

3807
02:24:46,230 --> 02:24:44,000
and not be established

3808
02:24:47,750 --> 02:24:46,240
you just can't i agree with you totally

3809
02:24:49,750 --> 02:24:47,760
i agree um

3810
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:49,760
except he was an establishment on the

3811
02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:50,800
matter of borders

3812
02:24:54,630 --> 02:24:52,960
and he wasn't establishment on matters

3813
02:24:56,710 --> 02:24:54,640
of trade and globalization

3814
02:24:57,830 --> 02:24:56,720
and that's the reality so he he was

3815
02:24:59,990 --> 02:24:57,840
actually an enemy

3816
02:25:01,110 --> 02:25:00,000
of the establishment on those matters to

3817
02:25:02,230 --> 02:25:01,120
the extent that he followed those

3818
02:25:05,750 --> 02:25:02,240
policies

3819
02:25:09,590 --> 02:25:05,760
uh with biden it's going to be a reset

3820
02:25:13,349 --> 02:25:09,600
back to straight on davos policies

3821
02:25:14,469 --> 02:25:13,359
and so that's i think that will be bad

3822
02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:14,479
for most people

3823
02:25:18,070 --> 02:25:16,240
there will be winners from that policy

3824
02:25:19,510 --> 02:25:18,080
as well though there's winners and

3825
02:25:21,429 --> 02:25:19,520
losers from these policies and they're

3826
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:21,439
going to be people who'll be very happy

3827
02:25:25,030 --> 02:25:22,880
with what happens in a biden

3828
02:25:26,469 --> 02:25:25,040
administration um

3829
02:25:28,469 --> 02:25:26,479
but but i think it's going to be hard

3830
02:25:31,590 --> 02:25:28,479
for a lot of people too so

3831
02:25:34,230 --> 02:25:31,600
where that's going to end

3832
02:25:35,670 --> 02:25:34,240
well i mean in the long term i think i i

3833
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:35,680
think i see pretty clearly where it's

3834
02:25:38,150 --> 02:25:37,040
going to end in the short term i don't

3835
02:25:39,990 --> 02:25:38,160
know

3836
02:25:41,590 --> 02:25:40,000
in the long term we're moving toward a

3837
02:25:44,389 --> 02:25:41,600
very tightly controlled

3838
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:44,399
essentially a version of totalitarianism

3839
02:25:46,389 --> 02:25:44,800
uh

3840
02:25:48,790 --> 02:25:46,399
and the big winner by the way of the

3841
02:25:52,150 --> 02:25:48,800
2020 pandemic sweepstakes

3842
02:25:53,110 --> 02:25:52,160
was china right in every possible way

3843
02:25:55,750 --> 02:25:53,120
you can imagine

3844
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:55,760
economically but also as a model of a

3845
02:25:59,750 --> 02:25:57,280
society

3846
02:26:01,270 --> 02:25:59,760
uh you you can see this like there are

3847
02:26:03,030 --> 02:26:01,280
western leaders who are

3848
02:26:04,469 --> 02:26:03,040
salivating at the thought of turning

3849
02:26:06,230 --> 02:26:04,479
their country into the next

3850
02:26:07,910 --> 02:26:06,240
version of china you were talking

3851
02:26:08,710 --> 02:26:07,920
earlier basically a version of social

3852
02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:08,720
credit like

3853
02:26:13,270 --> 02:26:11,280
your credit scores will potentially in

3854
02:26:15,670 --> 02:26:13,280
the future be contingent on your

3855
02:26:17,270 --> 02:26:15,680
your web searches if if that's so then

3856
02:26:17,910 --> 02:26:17,280
we're moving toward a social credit

3857
02:26:20,469 --> 02:26:17,920
system

3858
02:26:20,950 --> 02:26:20,479
even more rapidly that's the model of

3859
02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:20,960
china

3860
02:26:25,429 --> 02:26:24,000
long time that's it

3861
02:26:27,030 --> 02:26:25,439
that's it we have been now we've been

3862
02:26:30,070 --> 02:26:27,040
doing it unofficially

3863
02:26:32,070 --> 02:26:30,080
through big tech not legally through

3864
02:26:33,590 --> 02:26:32,080
law that's been the big difference

3865
02:26:36,550 --> 02:26:33,600
between the west and china

3866
02:26:37,349 --> 02:26:36,560
so ours is happening more informally but

3867
02:26:41,030 --> 02:26:37,359
every bit

3868
02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:41,040
it's very real and i think what we will

3869
02:26:44,630 --> 02:26:43,840
probably see in the next administration

3870
02:26:46,870 --> 02:26:44,640
is

3871
02:26:47,990 --> 02:26:46,880
some ramping up of that how much i don't

3872
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:48,000
know hopefully

3873
02:26:51,830 --> 02:26:50,640
not a lot but i would be surprised that

3874
02:26:54,950 --> 02:26:51,840
there were none

3875
02:26:55,910 --> 02:26:54,960
so we're moving toward um the big ant

3876
02:26:58,150 --> 02:26:55,920
colony

3877
02:26:59,910 --> 02:26:58,160
the china the china model and i think

3878
02:27:01,830 --> 02:26:59,920
that's really what we're seeing china's

3879
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:01,840
developed a genius method of social

3880
02:27:04,630 --> 02:27:03,040
control

3881
02:27:07,190 --> 02:27:04,640
say what else you want about them like

3882
02:27:08,870 --> 02:27:07,200
the their method of totalitarian control

3883
02:27:10,550 --> 02:27:08,880
is actually i put it on like grand

3884
02:27:12,469 --> 02:27:10,560
master chess level

3885
02:27:14,550 --> 02:27:12,479
you know bobby fischer magnus carlson

3886
02:27:16,710 --> 02:27:14,560
gary kasparov level of genius

3887
02:27:18,710 --> 02:27:16,720
and in the sense of terrifying their

3888
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:18,720
population into compliance

3889
02:27:23,510 --> 02:27:21,920
through a social credit system that uh

3890
02:27:25,590 --> 02:27:23,520
people don't know how to fight that in

3891
02:27:26,309 --> 02:27:25,600
china there's really no effective way to

3892
02:27:29,429 --> 02:27:26,319
fight it

3893
02:27:31,910 --> 02:27:29,439
no yeah you walk into a restaurant

3894
02:27:33,830 --> 02:27:31,920
and your cell phone gets pinged in china

3895
02:27:35,110 --> 02:27:33,840
which is a government-issued cell phone

3896
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:35,120
and you don't have the

3897
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:37,600
the social credits to enter that

3898
02:27:41,510 --> 02:27:39,439
restaurant you're gonna get stopped

3899
02:27:43,030 --> 02:27:41,520
you can't even pay for your food yeah

3900
02:27:45,750 --> 02:27:43,040
we're talking black mirror of course

3901
02:27:47,270 --> 02:27:45,760
yes yes we're moving toward that so the

3902
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:47,280
only question is how long is it going to

3903
02:27:49,750 --> 02:27:48,560
take it's going to take two years it's

3904
02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:49,760
going to take 20 years i don't

3905
02:27:53,510 --> 02:27:52,880
i don't know the um won't take longer

3906
02:27:55,990 --> 02:27:53,520
than 20

3907
02:27:57,190 --> 02:27:56,000
i'm pretty probably won't take longer

3908
02:28:01,030 --> 02:27:57,200
than 10.

3909
02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:01,040
one last uh uh political question um

3910
02:28:05,750 --> 02:28:04,160
a lot of things were unexpected did just

3911
02:28:09,270 --> 02:28:05,760
happen one the election in

3912
02:28:12,469 --> 02:28:09,280
in in georgia the the special runoff

3913
02:28:16,150 --> 02:28:12,479
where now uh we have uh

3914
02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:16,160
both houses and in the white house now

3915
02:28:21,429 --> 02:28:19,120
it's democrat it's all democratic does

3916
02:28:27,830 --> 02:28:21,439
that

3917
02:28:29,429 --> 02:28:27,840
or you know to get things done because

3918
02:28:30,389 --> 02:28:29,439
there's a lot of stuff that needs to get

3919
02:28:33,110 --> 02:28:30,399
done because of

3920
02:28:34,630 --> 02:28:33,120
what we have left on the table in nine i

3921
02:28:35,670 --> 02:28:34,640
think nine trillion dollar stimulus

3922
02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:35,680
package is that the number they're

3923
02:28:37,750 --> 02:28:36,479
talking about

3924
02:28:39,910 --> 02:28:37,760
so i would say get your gold and your

3925
02:28:41,910 --> 02:28:39,920
bitcoin or whatever alternate currencies

3926
02:28:43,670 --> 02:28:41,920
you've got because you're going to see a

3927
02:28:45,270 --> 02:28:43,680
i think a significant devaluation of the

3928
02:28:46,950 --> 02:28:45,280
dollar and

3929
02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:46,960
it's going to be avoided forever right

3930
02:28:50,870 --> 02:28:49,600
right and is just like a monopoly with

3931
02:28:54,150 --> 02:28:50,880
uh social media

3932
02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:54,160
and zuckerberg and and twitter

3933
02:28:59,110 --> 02:28:57,200
having a monopoly in washington dc

3934
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:59,120
is not necessarily a good thing i didn't

3935
02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:00,560
want to see this happen

3936
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:03,280
you need to have some uh check and

3937
02:29:05,830 --> 02:29:04,240
balance

3938
02:29:07,030 --> 02:29:05,840
which is the way i don't know what else

3939
02:29:07,990 --> 02:29:07,040
i mean there's gonna be a lot that

3940
02:29:10,070 --> 02:29:08,000
they'll try to push through

3941
02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:10,080
i would think uh stimulus is that's

3942
02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:11,680
number one but the domestic

3943
02:29:15,190 --> 02:29:13,600
anti-terrorism initiative that

3944
02:29:17,590 --> 02:29:15,200
clearly has been put on the table by joe

3945
02:29:19,190 --> 02:29:17,600
biden himself um

3946
02:29:20,710 --> 02:29:19,200
and what you really have to wonder i

3947
02:29:22,790 --> 02:29:20,720
mean people on the right are wondering

3948
02:29:24,389 --> 02:29:22,800
this i don't know how

3949
02:29:26,550 --> 02:29:24,399
significant this will end up being but

3950
02:29:28,870 --> 02:29:26,560
they're just wondering about a purge

3951
02:29:30,389 --> 02:29:28,880
you know the great a great purge of

3952
02:29:32,710 --> 02:29:30,399
conservative people and thinkers

3953
02:29:34,070 --> 02:29:32,720
will that actually happen i don't know

3954
02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:34,080
maybe maybe not

3955
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:37,600
but um and also i think you can probably

3956
02:29:40,070 --> 02:29:38,160
predict

3957
02:29:42,389 --> 02:29:40,080
uh probably some increase in u.s

3958
02:29:47,110 --> 02:29:42,399
military uh activity abroad

3959
02:29:48,710 --> 02:29:47,120
do you think do you see a third party

3960
02:29:50,469 --> 02:29:48,720
there's always been talk of one and

3961
02:29:51,670 --> 02:29:50,479
there's always been something running in

3962
02:29:53,429 --> 02:29:51,680
the background

3963
02:29:55,110 --> 02:29:53,439
yeah well there's been no success with

3964
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:55,120
that ever i mean the closest was ross

3965
02:29:57,830 --> 02:29:56,000
perot and

3966
02:29:59,590 --> 02:29:57,840
he got torpedoed like he was totally

3967
02:30:02,830 --> 02:29:59,600
torpedoed in 2000

3968
02:30:04,550 --> 02:30:02,840
uh or no in uh excuse me 1992 what am i

3969
02:30:06,550 --> 02:30:04,560
saying um

3970
02:30:07,990 --> 02:30:06,560
wow been 30 years yes since we've had a

3971
02:30:11,510 --> 02:30:08,000
third party guy

3972
02:30:13,270 --> 02:30:11,520
so um probably not

3973
02:30:14,630 --> 02:30:13,280
because it's too structurally difficult

3974
02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:14,640
for a third party to

3975
02:30:17,990 --> 02:30:17,040
really get traction i mean unless we

3976
02:30:19,750 --> 02:30:18,000
change some laws

3977
02:30:21,750 --> 02:30:19,760
which that doesn't look likely and

3978
02:30:23,670 --> 02:30:21,760
there's been desires for third party for

3979
02:30:25,190 --> 02:30:23,680
years and years and years and it's not

3980
02:30:27,590 --> 02:30:25,200
been successful for that reason there's

3981
02:30:29,910 --> 02:30:27,600
just too many legal hurdles for them

3982
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:29,920
now what's your prediction uh as we are

3983
02:30:32,870 --> 02:30:30,720
out of time

3984
02:30:34,150 --> 02:30:32,880
i i just need to tax your brain really

3985
02:30:37,590 --> 02:30:34,160
quick uh

3986
02:30:39,429 --> 02:30:37,600
what's the economy going to do in 2021

3987
02:30:41,990 --> 02:30:39,439
well it you know the sooner we can put

3988
02:30:44,790 --> 02:30:42,000
people back to work full-time the

3989
02:30:45,990 --> 02:30:44,800
the less painful it's going to be but it

3990
02:30:49,349 --> 02:30:46,000
doesn't look like it's going to happen

3991
02:30:50,469 --> 02:30:49,359
before even the summer i mean the

3992
02:30:52,309 --> 02:30:50,479
no one's going to be allowed to have a

3993
02:30:53,910 --> 02:30:52,319
society until they're vaccinated that's

3994
02:30:55,190 --> 02:30:53,920
just the reality like whatever one

3995
02:30:56,870 --> 02:30:55,200
thinks about the vaccine

3996
02:30:58,710 --> 02:30:56,880
it's irrelevant at this point you're not

3997
02:30:59,590 --> 02:30:58,720
going to be allowed to participate in

3998
02:31:01,590 --> 02:30:59,600
society

3999
02:31:03,349 --> 02:31:01,600
without it so if they roll out the

4000
02:31:07,030 --> 02:31:03,359
vaccine people take their

4001
02:31:08,309 --> 02:31:07,040
their shot it will be better to have

4002
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:08,319
people back to work

4003
02:31:12,309 --> 02:31:10,000
sooner because the longer you do the

4004
02:31:13,110 --> 02:31:12,319
stimulus spending without an actual

4005
02:31:15,590 --> 02:31:13,120
economy

4006
02:31:17,030 --> 02:31:15,600
that's truly functioning the deeper

4007
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:17,040
economic hole you're you're

4008
02:31:20,870 --> 02:31:19,840
digging for yourself um so that future

4009
02:31:22,230 --> 02:31:20,880
generation this is this

4010
02:31:23,590 --> 02:31:22,240
is not make believe stuff like people

4011
02:31:25,349 --> 02:31:23,600
think that they can just print money

4012
02:31:26,150 --> 02:31:25,359
with no repercussions but that is not

4013
02:31:27,750 --> 02:31:26,160
true

4014
02:31:29,590 --> 02:31:27,760
um there's there are going to be

4015
02:31:31,830 --> 02:31:29,600
repercussions and you know

4016
02:31:33,510 --> 02:31:31,840
economists people way smarter than me

4017
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:33,520
and this have been saying for years like

4018
02:31:37,590 --> 02:31:36,560
you cannot do this forever now the fact

4019
02:31:39,030 --> 02:31:37,600
is the united states has been getting

4020
02:31:39,830 --> 02:31:39,040
away with it forever because the us

4021
02:31:42,469 --> 02:31:39,840
military

4022
02:31:43,030 --> 02:31:42,479
basically rules most of the rest of the

4023
02:31:44,870 --> 02:31:43,040
world

4024
02:31:46,309 --> 02:31:44,880
and forces those nations to accept us

4025
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:46,319
dollars but that's

4026
02:31:50,469 --> 02:31:49,200
that's not going to happen forever uh

4027
02:31:51,349 --> 02:31:50,479
that is absolutely not going to happen

4028
02:31:52,550 --> 02:31:51,359
forever

4029
02:31:54,150 --> 02:31:52,560
you know this is why the u.s took out

4030
02:31:55,270 --> 02:31:54,160
qaddafi in libya because he was going to

4031
02:31:57,910 --> 02:31:55,280
get on a gold backed

4032
02:31:58,469 --> 02:31:57,920
dinar standard but china and russia are

4033
02:32:00,150 --> 02:31:58,479
not

4034
02:32:02,550 --> 02:32:00,160
going to be so easy for the united

4035
02:32:04,630 --> 02:32:02,560
states to control like that

4036
02:32:05,910 --> 02:32:04,640
and you know they've got their own plan

4037
02:32:08,630 --> 02:32:05,920
so i think

4038
02:32:10,230 --> 02:32:08,640
the dollar could could deal with some

4039
02:32:11,590 --> 02:32:10,240
serious problems down the road and

4040
02:32:13,190 --> 02:32:11,600
that's going to be a problem for all

4041
02:32:15,110 --> 02:32:13,200
americans

4042
02:32:16,790 --> 02:32:15,120
and i don't know what you know how bad

4043
02:32:18,870 --> 02:32:16,800
it's going to get but this is why get

4044
02:32:19,830 --> 02:32:18,880
get your goal get your crypto get

4045
02:32:23,830 --> 02:32:19,840
something

4046
02:32:27,349 --> 02:32:23,840
get a hedge now what what happened

4047
02:32:28,870 --> 02:32:27,359
um our our our dna at the basic level

4048
02:32:31,190 --> 02:32:28,880
has been altered

4049
02:32:32,630 --> 02:32:31,200
wearing masks we don't recognize faces

4050
02:32:34,070 --> 02:32:32,640
anymore

4051
02:32:37,030 --> 02:32:34,080
i'll stay on for another segment we're

4052
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:37,040
going to take this to the end okay okay

4053
02:32:40,790 --> 02:32:38,160
all right because we got too much to

4054
02:32:41,190 --> 02:32:40,800
discuss okay then let me take a break

4055
02:32:43,830 --> 02:32:41,200
now

4056
02:32:44,389 --> 02:32:43,840
is that okay you're producing the show

4057
02:32:46,550 --> 02:32:44,399
shall i

4058
02:32:48,070 --> 02:32:46,560
roll it now just tell me i'll hit the

4059
02:32:50,710 --> 02:32:48,080
button okay there you go

4060
02:32:52,790 --> 02:32:50,720
our guest tonight richard dolan we're

4061
02:32:55,110 --> 02:32:52,800
going into overtime too much to discuss

4062
02:32:56,550 --> 02:32:55,120
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4063
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tonight richard dolan overtime

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he insisted he insisted

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i i i i was mentally see i i did it with

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over time with richard dole we had to

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uh what we just ended with and and my

4160
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point being

4161
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that our dna has changed we are now

4162
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acclimated to face masks we don't see

4163
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facial expressions we don't recognize

4164
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people anymore

4165
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um i don't know what's gonna happen when

4166
02:37:47,750 --> 02:37:46,560
the masks come off we're not going to

4167
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recognize

4168
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or know how to react uh to people but

4169
02:37:55,910 --> 02:37:53,840
in the same respect with that there is

4170
02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:55,920
how are we going to handle crowds in the

4171
02:38:00,230 --> 02:37:57,120
future now

4172
02:38:03,510 --> 02:38:00,240
going to a concert or or things and be

4173
02:38:05,910 --> 02:38:03,520
because they have they have altered us

4174
02:38:06,710 --> 02:38:05,920
we've had one year of pummeling richard

4175
02:38:08,230 --> 02:38:06,720
i mean

4176
02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:08,240
are you going to go to a rock concert

4177
02:38:12,469 --> 02:38:09,840
with 35 000 people

4178
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:12,479
breathing on you it's not something that

4179
02:38:15,830 --> 02:38:13,439
i probably would have done

4180
02:38:17,510 --> 02:38:15,840
recently anyway but what about ufo

4181
02:38:18,150 --> 02:38:17,520
conferences what about our conference

4182
02:38:19,590 --> 02:38:18,160
schedule

4183
02:38:22,469 --> 02:38:19,600
and yeah i don't know what what what

4184
02:38:25,990 --> 02:38:22,479
that future's going to bring um

4185
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:26,000
you know i expect that we'll probably

4186
02:38:31,429 --> 02:38:28,479
get back to that

4187
02:38:32,950 --> 02:38:31,439
i expect that we'll probably get back to

4188
02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:32,960
being in crowds and

4189
02:38:38,469 --> 02:38:36,080
but it may take some time i think um

4190
02:38:40,469 --> 02:38:38,479
and there will definitely be folks i

4191
02:38:42,469 --> 02:38:40,479
don't know what percentage but i

4192
02:38:44,070 --> 02:38:42,479
would bet that there will be a certain

4193
02:38:45,510 --> 02:38:44,080
percentage of people who are not going

4194
02:38:48,550 --> 02:38:45,520
to want to go back

4195
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:48,560
have you well and you personally how do

4196
02:38:54,830 --> 02:38:49,840
you feel about it

4197
02:39:02,150 --> 02:38:58,790
um i'm not too concerned i mean i think

4198
02:39:03,190 --> 02:39:02,160
um well i don't know i mean i don't i

4199
02:39:05,510 --> 02:39:03,200
don't want to catch

4200
02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:05,520
covet i actually got tested uh not long

4201
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:07,520
ago because i

4202
02:39:11,270 --> 02:39:09,520
had to attend i had to see my mother she

4203
02:39:11,990 --> 02:39:11,280
was ill and she unfortunately passed

4204
02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:12,000
away and

4205
02:39:17,030 --> 02:39:15,040
uh because of that um

4206
02:39:19,030 --> 02:39:17,040
when i came back i got myself tested i

4207
02:39:22,230 --> 02:39:19,040
came back negative

4208
02:39:24,309 --> 02:39:22,240
so um but

4209
02:39:26,150 --> 02:39:24,319
you know i i could get it i don't want

4210
02:39:28,630 --> 02:39:26,160
to get it i don't want to have uh

4211
02:39:30,389 --> 02:39:28,640
coca-19 and

4212
02:39:32,070 --> 02:39:30,399
i do know people who died angelina

4213
02:39:34,150 --> 02:39:32,080
joyner in our community

4214
02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:34,160
unfortunately just recently passed away

4215
02:39:36,389 --> 02:39:35,680
due to that and she was a wonderful

4216
02:39:38,710 --> 02:39:36,399
woman

4217
02:39:40,309 --> 02:39:38,720
her and her husband and her husband one

4218
02:39:44,070 --> 02:39:40,319
day apart one day apart

4219
02:39:47,190 --> 02:39:44,080
terrible so it is a concern

4220
02:39:48,710 --> 02:39:47,200
um i think we'd all be you know

4221
02:39:51,270 --> 02:39:48,720
deceiving ourselves if we were like

4222
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:51,280
i'm not concerned about it but i don't

4223
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:52,080
want to live my whole

4224
02:39:55,429 --> 02:39:54,000
life in this state of fear like i just

4225
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:55,439
don't think it's the right thing

4226
02:39:59,670 --> 02:39:58,720
so um i'm probably going to i'll put

4227
02:40:01,670 --> 02:39:59,680
myself out there

4228
02:40:03,670 --> 02:40:01,680
when when i'm able to you know when we

4229
02:40:07,670 --> 02:40:03,680
are able to well what does this

4230
02:40:11,270 --> 02:40:07,680
do for disclosure

4231
02:40:13,349 --> 02:40:11,280
where before you and i and the community

4232
02:40:15,030 --> 02:40:13,359
were we're getting together you know 10

4233
02:40:17,830 --> 02:40:15,040
12 times a year

4234
02:40:18,710 --> 02:40:17,840
uh at these conferences and and and

4235
02:40:22,230 --> 02:40:18,720
hanging out

4236
02:40:24,070 --> 02:40:22,240
and and discussing the message now

4237
02:40:25,830 --> 02:40:24,080
what does that do to is this good it's a

4238
02:40:28,790 --> 02:40:25,840
good question um is it going to be an

4239
02:40:30,630 --> 02:40:28,800
online discussion now

4240
02:40:31,830 --> 02:40:30,640
one of the things that that ufo

4241
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:31,840
conferences

4242
02:40:36,070 --> 02:40:34,720
did that if like if someone doesn't go

4243
02:40:37,670 --> 02:40:36,080
to these conferences like they they

4244
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:37,680
can't really appreciate

4245
02:40:42,389 --> 02:40:40,240
but they're a tremendous venue for

4246
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:42,399
mixing ideas and for people to meet

4247
02:40:45,670 --> 02:40:44,160
like behind the scenes i think there's

4248
02:40:46,309 --> 02:40:45,680
zillions of conversations like this i

4249
02:40:47,590 --> 02:40:46,319
mean

4250
02:40:49,670 --> 02:40:47,600
you've done it i've done it a million

4251
02:40:52,469 --> 02:40:49,680
times and there's there's a lot

4252
02:40:52,870 --> 02:40:52,479
brewing at these events and i think

4253
02:40:55,269 --> 02:40:52,880
that's

4254
02:40:57,110 --> 02:40:55,279
their primary value it's not it's not

4255
02:40:57,830 --> 02:40:57,120
like any of my lectures or your talks or

4256
02:41:00,309 --> 02:40:57,840
anything like that

4257
02:41:01,750 --> 02:41:00,319
no it's like what happens behind the

4258
02:41:02,870 --> 02:41:01,760
scenes is really the value of these

4259
02:41:04,870 --> 02:41:02,880
conferences

4260
02:41:06,469 --> 02:41:04,880
and yes i could see that hindering or

4261
02:41:08,309 --> 02:41:06,479
hampering our communication

4262
02:41:09,830 --> 02:41:08,319
sharing information the main thing that

4263
02:41:12,950 --> 02:41:09,840
i'm i think with

4264
02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:12,960
uh any disclosure movement

4265
02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:15,760
that we i mean i think we can safely say

4266
02:41:18,309 --> 02:41:16,000
that

4267
02:41:19,910 --> 02:41:18,319
really in december of 2017 is when a new

4268
02:41:23,190 --> 02:41:19,920
era kicked off

4269
02:41:24,630 --> 02:41:23,200
in terms of ufos and disclosure and ufos

4270
02:41:27,349 --> 02:41:24,640
and public discourse that's with

4271
02:41:28,309 --> 02:41:27,359
the new york times two articles really

4272
02:41:32,070 --> 02:41:28,319
all pushed by

4273
02:41:34,150 --> 02:41:32,080
tdsa to the stars academy 100 they

4274
02:41:36,309 --> 02:41:34,160
have to take the credit for this uh and

4275
02:41:39,750 --> 02:41:36,319
that changed the dynamic

4276
02:41:41,349 --> 02:41:39,760
of how the world has fos

4277
02:41:42,790 --> 02:41:41,359
but if you've noticed anyone who looks

4278
02:41:45,510 --> 02:41:42,800
carefully like you'll see there's a lot

4279
02:41:48,150 --> 02:41:45,520
of things that have not been discussed

4280
02:41:49,349 --> 02:41:48,160
in that conversation and the one red

4281
02:41:52,870 --> 02:41:49,359
line

4282
02:41:56,230 --> 02:41:52,880
is discussion of a ufo cover-up

4283
02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:56,240
that's the red line that's

4284
02:41:59,670 --> 02:41:58,479
at least in mainstream conversations

4285
02:42:02,950 --> 02:41:59,680
like

4286
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:02,960
and in fact there are red lines even

4287
02:42:07,269 --> 02:42:05,040
prior to that at this point but the red

4288
02:42:09,670 --> 02:42:07,279
line prior to that would be

4289
02:42:11,030 --> 02:42:09,680
even trying to conclude what these

4290
02:42:12,469 --> 02:42:11,040
objects are like we still have this

4291
02:42:14,950 --> 02:42:12,479
fiction of people saying well maybe it's

4292
02:42:16,870 --> 02:42:14,960
the chinese like no it's not the chinese

4293
02:42:18,389 --> 02:42:16,880
don't insult our intelligence it's not

4294
02:42:20,550 --> 02:42:18,399
the russians

4295
02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:20,560
um you know these things are not

4296
02:42:23,349 --> 02:42:21,600
explainable they haven't been

4297
02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:23,359
explainable for decades and decades and

4298
02:42:26,790 --> 02:42:25,120
decades

4299
02:42:29,190 --> 02:42:26,800
so no one's going there either but the

4300
02:42:31,190 --> 02:42:29,200
real red line is cover-up

4301
02:42:32,710 --> 02:42:31,200
like they they can't they can't go

4302
02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:32,720
beyond where they are right now

4303
02:42:35,349 --> 02:42:34,000
they have to keep pretending we don't

4304
02:42:36,469 --> 02:42:35,359
know what they are because if they do

4305
02:42:37,990 --> 02:42:36,479
any more than that

4306
02:42:39,750 --> 02:42:38,000
then they're admitting that they

4307
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:39,760
actually got some conclusions

4308
02:42:43,190 --> 02:42:41,520
and they're basically being forced to

4309
02:42:45,030 --> 02:42:43,200
admit that they've lied

4310
02:42:46,790 --> 02:42:45,040
for an entire human lifetime and and

4311
02:42:49,510 --> 02:42:46,800
that's the red line

4312
02:42:51,510 --> 02:42:49,520
so and and our whole prior discussion

4313
02:42:54,550 --> 02:42:51,520
this evening where we were talking about

4314
02:42:56,790 --> 02:42:54,560
censorship this is relevant here in the

4315
02:43:00,230 --> 02:42:56,800
ufo conversation

4316
02:43:01,910 --> 02:43:00,240
because people like me uh especially

4317
02:43:03,990 --> 02:43:01,920
like people like me like i've i've

4318
02:43:06,309 --> 02:43:04,000
talked i don't just talk about the ufo

4319
02:43:09,190 --> 02:43:06,319
phenomenon i talk about the political

4320
02:43:10,070 --> 02:43:09,200
implications and of the cover-up itself

4321
02:43:11,830 --> 02:43:10,080
i've done that

4322
02:43:14,950 --> 02:43:11,840
since i first came into this field 20

4323
02:43:17,750 --> 02:43:14,960
years ago like that's been my

4324
02:43:20,230 --> 02:43:17,760
primary focus and so i talk about the

4325
02:43:22,389 --> 02:43:20,240
cover-up i talk about conspiracies

4326
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:22,399
and that's going to be the thing that i

4327
02:43:27,190 --> 02:43:23,680
foresee

4328
02:43:28,150 --> 02:43:27,200
where in terms of social media in terms

4329
02:43:31,030 --> 02:43:28,160
of

4330
02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:31,040
big tech censorship anything that's

4331
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:32,080
going to throw

4332
02:43:38,870 --> 02:43:35,200
doubt onto the authoritative nature of

4333
02:43:40,550 --> 02:43:38,880
the established positions on this

4334
02:43:43,510 --> 02:43:40,560
is going to be really difficult to do

4335
02:43:46,790 --> 02:43:43,520
and conspiracy theories have been so

4336
02:43:49,990 --> 02:43:46,800
relegated now to fringe

4337
02:43:52,230 --> 02:43:50,000
dangerous misinformation that my

4338
02:43:53,429 --> 02:43:52,240
concern as a researcher of the ufo

4339
02:43:56,630 --> 02:43:53,439
subject

4340
02:43:58,230 --> 02:43:56,640
is that you know people like me

4341
02:43:59,750 --> 02:43:58,240
and others who study the political

4342
02:44:00,950 --> 02:43:59,760
implications of this are going to have a

4343
02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:00,960
rough time

4344
02:44:04,230 --> 02:44:03,040
moving forward that that's my number one

4345
02:44:06,710 --> 02:44:04,240
concern

4346
02:44:07,670 --> 02:44:06,720
and i think that this is where we can

4347
02:44:10,230 --> 02:44:07,680
see big tech

4348
02:44:11,830 --> 02:44:10,240
and big government collusion here

4349
02:44:15,190 --> 02:44:11,840
working against

4350
02:44:15,910 --> 02:44:15,200
genuine political analysis of the ufo

4351
02:44:17,750 --> 02:44:15,920
cover-up

4352
02:44:19,830 --> 02:44:17,760
is it because it's going against the

4353
02:44:22,309 --> 02:44:19,840
system and the establishment

4354
02:44:24,230 --> 02:44:22,319
like jack dorsey you know pulls down

4355
02:44:27,429 --> 02:44:24,240
richard dolan's twitter

4356
02:44:29,429 --> 02:44:27,439
uh you know twitter account because he's

4357
02:44:30,550 --> 02:44:29,439
a favor to some some person in the

4358
02:44:33,590 --> 02:44:30,560
intelligence community

4359
02:44:37,349 --> 02:44:33,600
who knows but isn't that the point

4360
02:44:40,790 --> 02:44:37,359
yeah isn't that the point the ufo people

4361
02:44:44,830 --> 02:44:40,800
you know let's remind the listeners here

4362
02:44:46,230 --> 02:44:44,840
the ufo cover-up remains absolutely

4363
02:44:48,230 --> 02:44:46,240
explosive

4364
02:44:49,750 --> 02:44:48,240
when we start getting into the into the

4365
02:44:52,950 --> 02:44:49,760
weeds of this thing

4366
02:44:55,590 --> 02:44:52,960
all right it's a privatized largely

4367
02:44:59,190 --> 02:44:55,600
privatized with with public input and

4368
02:45:01,070 --> 02:44:59,200
public protection military protection

4369
02:45:02,230 --> 02:45:01,080
you know squirreling away of this

4370
02:45:04,550 --> 02:45:02,240
incredibly

4371
02:45:05,510 --> 02:45:04,560
transformative knowledge the secret

4372
02:45:08,790 --> 02:45:05,520
that's being kept from

4373
02:45:11,190 --> 02:45:08,800
from the world and when we start

4374
02:45:12,790 --> 02:45:11,200
analyzing the methods by which this

4375
02:45:17,750 --> 02:45:12,800
secret has been kept

4376
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:17,760
for more than 75 years now

4377
02:45:21,349 --> 02:45:19,359
that's you know we're getting into areas

4378
02:45:24,790 --> 02:45:21,359
of criminality by the government and

4379
02:45:27,269 --> 02:45:24,800
an ongoing level of criminal someone

4380
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:27,279
is culpable here throughout all of these

4381
02:45:30,150 --> 02:45:28,240
decades

4382
02:45:32,230 --> 02:45:30,160
all right the torch continues to get

4383
02:45:34,550 --> 02:45:32,240
passed and so there are always people

4384
02:45:37,030 --> 02:45:34,560
who have to follow the rule of cya

4385
02:45:39,830 --> 02:45:37,040
they do not want this coming out this is

4386
02:45:42,309 --> 02:45:39,840
a very disruptive

4387
02:45:44,550 --> 02:45:42,319
piece of information the ufo reality in

4388
02:45:46,469 --> 02:45:44,560
every way conceivable

4389
02:45:48,150 --> 02:45:46,479
so no i don't think that it's going to

4390
02:45:49,990 --> 02:45:48,160
be allowed to come out this far

4391
02:45:52,070 --> 02:45:50,000
the only reason it came out as far as it

4392
02:45:53,910 --> 02:45:52,080
did is not because the u.s navy

4393
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:53,920
voluntarily did any this none of this

4394
02:45:58,389 --> 02:45:55,600
was government volunteerism

4395
02:46:00,150 --> 02:45:58,399
this was a private entity of yes

4396
02:46:02,150 --> 02:46:00,160
ex-government intel people

4397
02:46:03,910 --> 02:46:02,160
but they were private they had their own

4398
02:46:05,190 --> 02:46:03,920
agenda they wanted to get this message

4399
02:46:07,030 --> 02:46:05,200
out and they got it out

4400
02:46:10,230 --> 02:46:07,040
into the new york times that was the

4401
02:46:11,670 --> 02:46:10,240
coup and that

4402
02:46:13,110 --> 02:46:11,680
was is what has changed this

4403
02:46:14,150 --> 02:46:13,120
conversation and by the way with the new

4404
02:46:15,830 --> 02:46:14,160
york times

4405
02:46:17,110 --> 02:46:15,840
for every bit of information that i have

4406
02:46:18,710 --> 02:46:17,120
got on this and i'm not going to give up

4407
02:46:20,630 --> 02:46:18,720
names i don't want to put people

4408
02:46:22,389 --> 02:46:20,640
get people mad at me here but the new

4409
02:46:25,030 --> 02:46:22,399
york times had a lot of

4410
02:46:25,670 --> 02:46:25,040
pushback on this on these articles at

4411
02:46:27,670 --> 02:46:25,680
first

4412
02:46:29,110 --> 02:46:27,680
and they allowed them to go through and

4413
02:46:30,550 --> 02:46:29,120
that's a story that i would love to get

4414
02:46:32,150 --> 02:46:30,560
the full detail on

4415
02:46:33,269 --> 02:46:32,160
but it's not like the new york times

4416
02:46:33,830 --> 02:46:33,279
immediately said oh yeah we're going to

4417
02:46:35,429 --> 02:46:33,840
do it

4418
02:46:37,349 --> 02:46:35,439
i've always believed the times covered

4419
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:37,359
those stories in 2017

4420
02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:39,520
because they were coming out anyway

4421
02:46:43,110 --> 02:46:40,960
there was actually a fair amount of

4422
02:46:46,150 --> 02:46:43,120
coverage on what ttsa was doing

4423
02:46:48,389 --> 02:46:46,160
through october and november of 2017 and

4424
02:46:50,309 --> 02:46:48,399
um you know you have leslie kane and

4425
02:46:53,429 --> 02:46:50,319
ralph blumenthal and helene cooper

4426
02:46:54,790 --> 02:46:53,439
working this i think the time said okay

4427
02:46:55,750 --> 02:46:54,800
we'll we'll take this and we'll get out

4428
02:46:57,030 --> 02:46:55,760
ahead of it

4429
02:46:59,030 --> 02:46:57,040
and and then what happened is that the

4430
02:47:01,110 --> 02:46:59,040
story became bigger than that

4431
02:47:02,550 --> 02:47:01,120
and so that then that forced the rest of

4432
02:47:04,870 --> 02:47:02,560
the establishment into

4433
02:47:07,190 --> 02:47:04,880
making some level of accommodation but

4434
02:47:10,230 --> 02:47:07,200
this is as far as they're going

4435
02:47:12,309 --> 02:47:10,240
this where where they are right now like

4436
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:12,319
we're supposed to get in six months time

4437
02:47:16,070 --> 02:47:13,600
the you know the

4438
02:47:17,990 --> 02:47:16,080
navy task force the uap task force there

4439
02:47:18,630 --> 02:47:18,000
obviously in the covet emergency relief

4440
02:47:20,790 --> 02:47:18,640
bill

4441
02:47:22,150 --> 02:47:20,800
that provision is buried there and the

4442
02:47:22,550 --> 02:47:22,160
question is what are they going to say

4443
02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:22,560
and

4444
02:47:27,349 --> 02:47:25,520
my this is my prediction it's not going

4445
02:47:29,269 --> 02:47:27,359
to say a hell of a lot

4446
02:47:30,870 --> 02:47:29,279
you know when you consider the massive

4447
02:47:33,590 --> 02:47:30,880
amount of you have good

4448
02:47:33,990 --> 02:47:33,600
quality ufo sightings over the last 20

4449
02:47:37,110 --> 02:47:34,000
years

4450
02:47:39,830 --> 02:47:37,120
alone video

4451
02:47:40,550 --> 02:47:39,840
photo great testimony i've been going

4452
02:47:42,790 --> 02:47:40,560
through this i'm

4453
02:47:44,389 --> 02:47:42,800
i'm actively working on volume 3 of ufos

4454
02:47:47,429 --> 02:47:44,399
in the national security state so i am

4455
02:47:48,710 --> 02:47:47,439
i am in this deep right now and now i

4456
02:47:49,269 --> 02:47:48,720
read the rules all of this information

4457
02:47:51,590 --> 02:47:49,279
at me

4458
02:47:53,110 --> 02:47:51,600
is an unbelievable amount so you're

4459
02:47:53,750 --> 02:47:53,120
going to tell me that the military with

4460
02:47:57,510 --> 02:47:53,760
their

4461
02:47:58,630 --> 02:47:57,520
that they don't have some of this

4462
02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:58,640
how much of that do you think is going

4463
02:48:04,150 --> 02:48:00,800
to get out i'll tell you how much

4464
02:48:07,349 --> 02:48:04,160
a couple of dribbles well in in i've

4465
02:48:10,070 --> 02:48:07,359
i've read the verbiage and in

4466
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:10,080
the provision you know the 180 day

4467
02:48:15,269 --> 02:48:11,920
report

4468
02:48:18,710 --> 02:48:15,279
that it should be public

4469
02:48:21,590 --> 02:48:18,720
information available to the public but

4470
02:48:22,389 --> 02:48:21,600
it is provided that the report can have

4471
02:48:25,750 --> 02:48:22,399
a section

4472
02:48:27,190 --> 02:48:25,760
of classified exactly right and

4473
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:27,200
and i thought well there's your actual

4474
02:48:32,469 --> 02:48:30,640
right right absolutely

4475
02:48:34,309 --> 02:48:32,479
absolutely look if they're going to

4476
02:48:36,309 --> 02:48:34,319
determine that these

4477
02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:36,319
various sightings have national security

4478
02:48:39,190 --> 02:48:37,840
implications they're not going to

4479
02:48:42,950 --> 02:48:39,200
declassify them

4480
02:48:44,870 --> 02:48:42,960
that's that it's that simple

4481
02:48:46,469 --> 02:48:44,880
they're not going to do that so we're

4482
02:48:48,070 --> 02:48:46,479
we'll get a we'll get a couple of bones

4483
02:48:51,110 --> 02:48:48,080
thrown at us i'm sure when this

4484
02:48:53,510 --> 02:48:51,120
some of it will be made public and then

4485
02:48:54,950 --> 02:48:53,520
you know we had the tic tac ufo that was

4486
02:48:57,030 --> 02:48:54,960
of course that wasn't the navy

4487
02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:57,040
volunteering that that was that was

4488
02:49:01,750 --> 02:48:58,800
through ttsa's efforts but

4489
02:49:03,830 --> 02:49:01,760
nonetheless uh we may get a couple of

4490
02:49:06,389 --> 02:49:03,840
new cases

4491
02:49:07,590 --> 02:49:06,399
this is this is how i see it the the

4492
02:49:09,990 --> 02:49:07,600
public portion

4493
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:10,000
of the report this is my crystal ball

4494
02:49:16,150 --> 02:49:12,160
public portion of the crystal ball

4495
02:49:19,190 --> 02:49:16,160
is its drones and identifiable

4496
02:49:21,670 --> 02:49:19,200
right the uaps are all explainable

4497
02:49:23,190 --> 02:49:21,680
so what happened right right right

4498
02:49:23,670 --> 02:49:23,200
that's exactly what blue book did they

4499
02:49:25,429 --> 02:49:23,680
they had

4500
02:49:27,830 --> 02:49:25,439
unidentified people make so much of a

4501
02:49:29,429 --> 02:49:27,840
big deal 701 unidentified

4502
02:49:31,030 --> 02:49:29,439
yeah when you go into the blue book

4503
02:49:32,230 --> 02:49:31,040
unidentified they're the most boring

4504
02:49:35,510 --> 02:49:32,240
ridiculous

4505
02:49:37,269 --> 02:49:35,520
like forgettable ufo cases i saw a light

4506
02:49:39,110 --> 02:49:37,279
up in horizon go up and move over and

4507
02:49:41,269 --> 02:49:39,120
then it's blinked out like that's

4508
02:49:42,389 --> 02:49:41,279
by the mid 60s that's what blue book sun

4509
02:49:45,590 --> 02:49:42,399
identifies were

4510
02:49:46,790 --> 02:49:45,600
and and um the really good cases were

4511
02:49:48,070 --> 02:49:46,800
not going there

4512
02:49:48,870 --> 02:49:48,080
they were going elsewhere and i think

4513
02:49:50,150 --> 02:49:48,880
that's where we're going to see

4514
02:49:52,230 --> 02:49:50,160
something like that with this

4515
02:49:53,590 --> 02:49:52,240
yeah the classified section is going to

4516
02:49:56,630 --> 02:49:53,600
be anything

4517
02:49:57,510 --> 02:49:56,640
that could be et related we're not going

4518
02:50:00,469 --> 02:49:57,520
to see that

4519
02:50:02,790 --> 02:50:00,479
i wanted to ask you this with the senate

4520
02:50:07,030 --> 02:50:02,800
intelligence committee's conversation

4521
02:50:10,630 --> 02:50:07,040
about the uap task force the uaptf

4522
02:50:11,230 --> 02:50:10,640
are the senators actually using words

4523
02:50:14,950 --> 02:50:11,240
like

4524
02:50:18,230 --> 02:50:14,960
extraterrestrial flying saucer ufos

4525
02:50:20,630 --> 02:50:18,240
or are those senators on that committee

4526
02:50:21,750 --> 02:50:20,640
assuming that we are talking about

4527
02:50:24,710 --> 02:50:21,760
threats from

4528
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:24,720
the soviet union and what do you think

4529
02:50:28,309 --> 02:50:25,200
what do you

4530
02:50:30,469 --> 02:50:28,319
think i'll tell you what i think no

4531
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:30,479
not china not russia no i'm talking

4532
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:32,160
about the conversation yeah but the

4533
02:50:36,070 --> 02:50:34,000
conversations with the senators are they

4534
02:50:37,510 --> 02:50:36,080
really talking about little green men

4535
02:50:39,110 --> 02:50:37,520
i don't know like you you know there

4536
02:50:40,469 --> 02:50:39,120
have been various statements put out by

4537
02:50:41,190 --> 02:50:40,479
people like christopher mellon and eric

4538
02:50:43,269 --> 02:50:41,200
davis who

4539
02:50:45,349 --> 02:50:43,279
oh both of whom were at the briefings

4540
02:50:48,070 --> 02:50:45,359
davis gave briefings to these people

4541
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:48,080
well davis used the word flying saucer

4542
02:50:51,590 --> 02:50:49,200
right

4543
02:50:52,550 --> 02:50:51,600
he said it it's in that latest article

4544
02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:52,560
yeah davis is

4545
02:50:56,389 --> 02:50:55,120
extremely forthright like whatever you

4546
02:51:00,309 --> 02:50:56,399
think like he's

4547
02:51:02,230 --> 02:51:00,319
he's almost blunt at times and so i'm

4548
02:51:03,670 --> 02:51:02,240
pretty sure that he laid it out for

4549
02:51:05,190 --> 02:51:03,680
these people i mean his opinions are

4550
02:51:07,110 --> 02:51:05,200
very well known

4551
02:51:08,150 --> 02:51:07,120
and i i don't think there's any reason

4552
02:51:09,190 --> 02:51:08,160
to doubt that he didn't give these

4553
02:51:11,990 --> 02:51:09,200
opinions just as

4554
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:12,000
straightforward to the senators so um no

4555
02:51:15,030 --> 02:51:12,240
i'm

4556
02:51:17,190 --> 02:51:15,040
conversations that about

4557
02:51:19,990 --> 02:51:17,200
extraterrestrial component of ufos

4558
02:51:20,630 --> 02:51:20,000
no doubt in my mind why isn't there

4559
02:51:22,469 --> 02:51:20,640
richard

4560
02:51:25,349 --> 02:51:22,479
you're you're a researcher you're a

4561
02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:25,359
writer you're a publisher

4562
02:51:29,750 --> 02:51:27,359
why with that article with that

4563
02:51:30,870 --> 02:51:29,760
paragraph that quote from eric davis

4564
02:51:33,429 --> 02:51:30,880
right that we have

4565
02:51:35,429 --> 02:51:33,439
captured flying saucers right that

4566
02:51:37,670 --> 02:51:35,439
that's that's the quote

4567
02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:37,680
why hasn't a journalist you mean the

4568
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:39,520
author of the thomas wilson notes that

4569
02:51:42,070 --> 02:51:40,720
i've been arguing for for the last

4570
02:51:45,349 --> 02:51:42,080
couple of years that eric gave us

4571
02:51:46,389 --> 02:51:45,359
that that same dr eric davis why hasn't

4572
02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:46,399
a journalist

4573
02:51:51,670 --> 02:51:49,840
out there seized on that quote and gone

4574
02:51:54,710 --> 02:51:51,680
to eric davis to explain it

4575
02:51:56,309 --> 02:51:54,720
or gone to marco rubio

4576
02:51:58,309 --> 02:51:56,319
and the other members of the senate

4577
02:51:59,349 --> 02:51:58,319
intelligence committee for clarification

4578
02:52:01,110 --> 02:51:59,359
on that quote

4579
02:52:02,389 --> 02:52:01,120
when you say journalist i mean who do

4580
02:52:04,070 --> 02:52:02,399
you mean you mean someone who's like

4581
02:52:04,630 --> 02:52:04,080
with nbc news well that's not going to

4582
02:52:08,309 --> 02:52:04,640
happen

4583
02:52:14,710 --> 02:52:11,670
all right well has has

4584
02:52:17,750 --> 02:52:14,720
no one isn't yeah isn't that a

4585
02:52:20,630 --> 02:52:17,760
nugget isn't that a gift to

4586
02:52:22,630 --> 02:52:20,640
a journalist out there to seize on that

4587
02:52:23,990 --> 02:52:22,640
statement and that quote from eric yes i

4588
02:52:25,510 --> 02:52:24,000
think so

4589
02:52:28,469 --> 02:52:25,520
and hey thank you for calling me out on

4590
02:52:29,590 --> 02:52:28,479
it me i should i should ask him i mean i

4591
02:52:30,550 --> 02:52:29,600
don't know what he'll say to me though

4592
02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:30,560
like

4593
02:52:34,150 --> 02:52:32,399
that's the thing but i shouldn't i

4594
02:52:36,710 --> 02:52:34,160
shouldn't pre-judge the matter

4595
02:52:38,309 --> 02:52:36,720
so um thank you for letting a little

4596
02:52:39,830 --> 02:52:38,319
fire underneath my backside there

4597
02:52:42,150 --> 02:52:39,840
well it's only because when you read

4598
02:52:45,190 --> 02:52:42,160
that latest article um uh

4599
02:52:46,150 --> 02:52:45,200
from ralph and leslie it's it's a lot of

4600
02:52:48,870 --> 02:52:46,160
research

4601
02:52:50,630 --> 02:52:48,880
last summer yes yes it's a lot of rehash

4602
02:52:52,630 --> 02:52:50,640
but you get to that quote from eric

4603
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:52,640
davis and it's like holy crap he's

4604
02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:54,880
saying he debriefed the united states

4605
02:52:58,950 --> 02:52:56,080
senate and told them

4606
02:52:59,349 --> 02:52:58,960
we have crash flying saucers and by the

4607
02:53:01,910 --> 02:52:59,359
way

4608
02:53:03,110 --> 02:53:01,920
that's the most explosive thing ever in

4609
02:53:05,429 --> 02:53:03,120
the aftermath of

4610
02:53:07,269 --> 02:53:05,439
that article leslie and ralph did a

4611
02:53:09,110 --> 02:53:07,279
really interesting interview with a

4612
02:53:11,030 --> 02:53:09,120
fellow named jay over at project unity

4613
02:53:12,230 --> 02:53:11,040
and i i know and like jay very much he's

4614
02:53:13,269 --> 02:53:12,240
got a good channel i just want to give

4615
02:53:16,469 --> 02:53:13,279
him a shout out

4616
02:53:18,630 --> 02:53:16,479
uh he interviewed them and it was a very

4617
02:53:21,349 --> 02:53:18,640
perceptively done interview

4618
02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:21,359
and you know when you listen to that i

4619
02:53:26,630 --> 02:53:24,160
mean they

4620
02:53:29,110 --> 02:53:26,640
they actually leslie in my almost

4621
02:53:32,309 --> 02:53:29,120
accidentally gave a confirmation of the

4622
02:53:34,150 --> 02:53:32,319
davis notes for wilson that's one thing

4623
02:53:36,070 --> 02:53:34,160
but what they also did is they were

4624
02:53:37,910 --> 02:53:36,080
coming within a hair's breadth

4625
02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:37,920
of acknowledging the reality of ufo

4626
02:53:41,030 --> 02:53:39,600
crash retrievals it's a really

4627
02:53:43,349 --> 02:53:41,040
interesting interview

4628
02:53:44,790 --> 02:53:43,359
i uh i reached out to ralph ralph i'm

4629
02:53:46,710 --> 02:53:44,800
not throwing you under the bus but i

4630
02:53:49,030 --> 02:53:46,720
reached out to ralph after the article

4631
02:53:52,870 --> 02:53:49,040
came out uh to come on to fade to black

4632
02:53:55,510 --> 02:53:52,880
and his response i've got a book coming

4633
02:53:58,150 --> 02:53:55,520
out in 2021 i'll let you know and we'll

4634
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:01,990
that was that was six months ago and

4635
02:54:07,190 --> 02:54:05,200
yeah yeah because uh

4636
02:54:09,030 --> 02:54:07,200
how do i they're very care he's a decent

4637
02:54:10,309 --> 02:54:09,040
man i've corresponded with him and and

4638
02:54:12,550 --> 02:54:10,319
leslie i have a very high

4639
02:54:14,790 --> 02:54:12,560
regard for leslie kane yes uh but they

4640
02:54:16,150 --> 02:54:14,800
have to be very careful

4641
02:54:17,190 --> 02:54:16,160
with their statements because they're

4642
02:54:18,230 --> 02:54:17,200
still trying to work through the new

4643
02:54:20,630 --> 02:54:18,240
york times

4644
02:54:22,150 --> 02:54:20,640
that's their thing like a lot of times

4645
02:54:23,349 --> 02:54:22,160
you you want them just to say throw off

4646
02:54:26,550 --> 02:54:23,359
the gloves and just

4647
02:54:27,429 --> 02:54:26,560
because they both know a great deal more

4648
02:54:29,269 --> 02:54:27,439
than what they have written

4649
02:54:30,710 --> 02:54:29,279
of course and they've said this so i'm

4650
02:54:32,309 --> 02:54:30,720
not i'm not outing them here

4651
02:54:35,510 --> 02:54:32,319
they've said this themselves in their

4652
02:54:36,790 --> 02:54:35,520
interview with jay uh for starters

4653
02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:36,800
but they're not going to do that they're

4654
02:54:38,710 --> 02:54:37,840
not going to throw off the gloves

4655
02:54:40,950 --> 02:54:38,720
because they

4656
02:54:42,070 --> 02:54:40,960
believe and maybe they're right i don't

4657
02:54:45,269 --> 02:54:42,080
know but they believe

4658
02:54:46,710 --> 02:54:45,279
that working through the establishment

4659
02:54:49,190 --> 02:54:46,720
newspaper the new york times and getting

4660
02:54:52,150 --> 02:54:49,200
that word out can do more

4661
02:54:53,990 --> 02:54:52,160
so even though they're essentially they

4662
02:54:55,429 --> 02:54:54,000
admitted but didn't admit but did admit

4663
02:54:57,750 --> 02:54:55,439
that they were being censored or that

4664
02:54:59,349 --> 02:54:57,760
they were being very strictly guided

4665
02:55:00,870 --> 02:54:59,359
in what they were allowed to say i mean

4666
02:55:02,469 --> 02:55:00,880
it's not hard to read between the lines

4667
02:55:05,110 --> 02:55:02,479
of what they were talking about

4668
02:55:06,790 --> 02:55:05,120
in closing tonight richard uh one thing

4669
02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:06,800
that we're all used to in the ufo

4670
02:55:09,429 --> 02:55:07,680
community

4671
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:09,439
is what we're going through now which is

4672
02:55:14,309 --> 02:55:11,279
okay one more year

4673
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:14,319
be the year

4674
02:55:17,750 --> 02:55:17,200
we've been waiting right and it's keep

4675
02:55:21,269 --> 02:55:17,760
waiting

4676
02:55:24,469 --> 02:55:21,279
yeah 2021 is it the year no

4677
02:55:25,429 --> 02:55:24,479
no doubt it i seriously doubt it it's

4678
02:55:28,830 --> 02:55:25,439
not gonna be the year

4679
02:55:31,269 --> 02:55:28,840
oh man uh i don't see any voluntary

4680
02:55:34,070 --> 02:55:31,279
disclosure

4681
02:55:35,830 --> 02:55:34,080
happening i'll make this per viso if if

4682
02:55:38,870 --> 02:55:35,840
it happens

4683
02:55:42,469 --> 02:55:38,880
don't believe it in other words

4684
02:55:45,750 --> 02:55:42,479
there is a mountain of ufo data

4685
02:55:48,630 --> 02:55:45,760
all right mountains and mountains

4686
02:55:50,550 --> 02:55:48,640
if there were a disclosure moment by a

4687
02:55:53,349 --> 02:55:50,560
united states government

4688
02:55:54,710 --> 02:55:53,359
you're going to be getting a tiny sliver

4689
02:55:56,950 --> 02:55:54,720
of that mountain

4690
02:55:57,990 --> 02:55:56,960
and it will be that sliver that will be

4691
02:55:59,590 --> 02:55:58,000
designed

4692
02:56:01,190 --> 02:55:59,600
for the purposes of those people giving

4693
02:56:04,870 --> 02:56:01,200
that message for their

4694
02:56:07,349 --> 02:56:04,880
to suit their needs um a to keep

4695
02:56:09,830 --> 02:56:07,359
responsible people out of prison for

4696
02:56:11,670 --> 02:56:09,840
whatever criminal acts and be

4697
02:56:12,870 --> 02:56:11,680
probably to generate just enough fear

4698
02:56:14,790 --> 02:56:12,880
they don't want to give too much fear

4699
02:56:16,630 --> 02:56:14,800
because that works against

4700
02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:16,640
their purposes as well but just enough

4701
02:56:20,309 --> 02:56:18,720
fear so that people will say

4702
02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:20,319
well we want you to protect us you know

4703
02:56:24,950 --> 02:56:22,080
that that kind of thing i could see

4704
02:56:26,309 --> 02:56:24,960
but but that's only that's a desperate

4705
02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:26,319
measure

4706
02:56:30,550 --> 02:56:29,200
like there won't be a disclosure unless

4707
02:56:33,269 --> 02:56:30,560
unless the back is

4708
02:56:35,030 --> 02:56:33,279
to the wall and there is literally no

4709
02:56:36,469 --> 02:56:35,040
other way out and

4710
02:56:38,230 --> 02:56:36,479
they're not they're not even close to

4711
02:56:40,070 --> 02:56:38,240
that point right now we could

4712
02:56:41,349 --> 02:56:40,080
still we don't know what they are phase

4713
02:56:42,710 --> 02:56:41,359
like this nonsense

4714
02:56:45,510 --> 02:56:42,720
we could have gotten a tweet out of

4715
02:56:48,309 --> 02:56:45,520
trump but that ain't gonna happen

4716
02:56:49,349 --> 02:56:48,319
i was half expecting it for a while

4717
02:56:51,349 --> 02:56:49,359
years of his

4718
02:56:53,110 --> 02:56:51,359
you know and the man lived on twitter

4719
02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:53,120
and you could just see him like at 2 am

4720
02:56:55,429 --> 02:56:54,800
saying people we all know that ufos are

4721
02:56:57,830 --> 02:56:55,439
real like

4722
02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:57,840
of course that that would have had very

4723
02:57:01,030 --> 02:56:58,640
little

4724
02:57:02,870 --> 02:57:01,040
effect on public opinion half the people

4725
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:02,880
would have said that's bs anyway

4726
02:57:06,389 --> 02:57:04,319
but it would have been interesting but

4727
02:57:08,630 --> 02:57:06,399
it didn't happen okay

4728
02:57:10,070 --> 02:57:08,640
richard thank you so much man and and my

4729
02:57:11,349 --> 02:57:10,080
best to you and tracy and the rest of

4730
02:57:13,110 --> 02:57:11,359
the family and

4731
02:57:14,950 --> 02:57:13,120
and our thoughts and prayers with you

4732
02:57:16,550 --> 02:57:14,960
and and and everything else uh

4733
02:57:18,870 --> 02:57:16,560
what is going on and what you have just

4734
02:57:22,389 --> 02:57:18,880
gone through uh with the family

4735
02:57:23,670 --> 02:57:22,399
so uh enough of that when is uh what are

4736
02:57:26,309 --> 02:57:23,680
you working on now

4737
02:57:28,070 --> 02:57:26,319
new book you're right well i just i i

4738
02:57:29,030 --> 02:57:28,080
was very happy with my last book the

4739
02:57:31,670 --> 02:57:29,040
alien agenda that

4740
02:57:33,190 --> 02:57:31,680
was kind of a surprise project but um i

4741
02:57:34,710 --> 02:57:33,200
really like it i've gotten great reviews

4742
02:57:38,150 --> 02:57:34,720
i'm very pleased about that

4743
02:57:39,910 --> 02:57:38,160
uh that that book is my my speculative

4744
02:57:41,030 --> 02:57:39,920
analysis on what i think is going on

4745
02:57:42,630 --> 02:57:41,040
like who are these other beings and

4746
02:57:44,070 --> 02:57:42,640
what's their agenda and i really tried

4747
02:57:45,110 --> 02:57:44,080
my best to lay that out for the first

4748
02:57:48,150 --> 02:57:45,120
time ever

4749
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:48,160
right now i'm i'm deep

4750
02:57:52,870 --> 02:57:51,040
into uh getting all of my data together

4751
02:57:54,870 --> 02:57:52,880
for volume three of ufos in the national

4752
02:57:56,870 --> 02:57:54,880
security state and it's become

4753
02:57:58,550 --> 02:57:56,880
uh kind of an important priority and

4754
02:58:00,710 --> 02:57:58,560
i've done i've

4755
02:58:02,309 --> 02:58:00,720
surprised myself with how much and how

4756
02:58:04,150 --> 02:58:02,319
consistently i'm working on it

4757
02:58:05,990 --> 02:58:04,160
and you know on on top of that i work at

4758
02:58:06,950 --> 02:58:06,000
my website richardola members.com or

4759
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:06,960
i've got a lot of

4760
02:58:09,990 --> 02:58:08,319
people i try to keep everyone happy

4761
02:58:11,830 --> 02:58:10,000
there and and produce content

4762
02:58:13,429 --> 02:58:11,840
exclusively for that site which is where

4763
02:58:16,469 --> 02:58:13,439
a lot of my energy also goes

4764
02:58:18,550 --> 02:58:16,479
thank you so much man and uh i i always

4765
02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:18,560
look forward to the conversations but

4766
02:58:21,910 --> 02:58:20,240
uh they're always good well you know

4767
02:58:23,030 --> 02:58:21,920
what was great tonight i i think for

4768
02:58:26,550 --> 02:58:23,040
both of it we've

4769
02:58:28,389 --> 02:58:26,560
never gone into these zones before

4770
02:58:30,309 --> 02:58:28,399
and no i was a little i was a bit

4771
02:58:31,910 --> 02:58:30,319
nervous beforehand i'm not gonna lie

4772
02:58:32,309 --> 02:58:31,920
like i just thought am i going to step

4773
02:58:35,910 --> 02:58:32,319
into

4774
02:58:37,750 --> 02:58:35,920
you know a foot of dog

4775
02:58:39,830 --> 02:58:37,760
manure or whatever i'm going to just i'm

4776
02:58:40,870 --> 02:58:39,840
going to go like destroy myself with

4777
02:58:42,389 --> 02:58:40,880
some

4778
02:58:43,910 --> 02:58:42,399
statement that's going to piss off half

4779
02:58:45,750 --> 02:58:43,920
the people who follow me

4780
02:58:47,590 --> 02:58:45,760
it was funny before the show when you

4781
02:58:50,309 --> 02:58:47,600
said to me jimmy are you sure

4782
02:58:51,110 --> 02:58:50,319
right like i really know but on the

4783
02:58:53,590 --> 02:58:51,120
other hand look it's

4784
02:58:54,389 --> 02:58:53,600
it's important like we it is important

4785
02:58:56,389 --> 02:58:54,399
to discuss

4786
02:58:57,750 --> 02:58:56,399
these things um they're they're going on

4787
02:59:00,309 --> 02:58:57,760
all around us

4788
02:59:02,150 --> 02:59:00,319
and it's you know not a good idea for me

4789
02:59:03,670 --> 02:59:02,160
just to run away from it all the time so

4790
02:59:05,670 --> 02:59:03,680
i'm glad that we had this chance to do

4791
02:59:07,190 --> 02:59:05,680
it i'll probably do a live stream on

4792
02:59:08,790 --> 02:59:07,200
youtube tomorrow and i'll talk

4793
02:59:10,710 --> 02:59:08,800
probably about some of these issues yeah

4794
02:59:11,510 --> 02:59:10,720
thank you so much richard be safe and be

4795
02:59:13,750 --> 02:59:11,520
well

4796
02:59:15,429 --> 02:59:13,760
and uh we'll speak soon thank you so

4797
02:59:18,790 --> 02:59:15,439
much thank you jimmy

4798
02:59:21,590 --> 02:59:18,800
richard bleepin dolan and we just went

4799
02:59:23,030 --> 02:59:21,600
literally uh pulled the poll here so

4800
02:59:26,070 --> 02:59:23,040
i've got to get out of here and run

4801
02:59:27,710 --> 02:59:26,080
credits but uh richard dolan press.com

4802
02:59:29,910 --> 02:59:27,720
the links are over at

4803
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:29,920
jimmychurchradio.com all simple to do

4804
02:59:35,190 --> 02:59:33,439
follow richard on twitter at rich dolan

4805
02:59:36,870 --> 02:59:35,200
bay to black's executive producers rita

4806
02:59:39,349 --> 02:59:36,880
kamarian show us produced by hilton j

4807
02:59:41,670 --> 02:59:39,359
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4808
02:59:44,150 --> 02:59:41,680
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4809
02:59:46,429 --> 02:59:44,160
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4810
02:59:47,910 --> 02:59:46,439
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4811
02:59:49,910 --> 02:59:47,920
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4812
02:59:51,429 --> 02:59:49,920
fade to black is produced by kjcr for

4813
02:59:52,550 --> 02:59:51,439
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4814
02:59:55,110 --> 02:59:52,560
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4815
02:59:57,110 --> 02:59:55,120
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4816
02:59:57,990 --> 02:59:57,120
2021 by fade to black and the game

4817
03:00:00,230 --> 02:59:58,000
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4818
03:00:01,670 --> 03:00:00,240
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4819
03:00:03,190 --> 03:00:01,680
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4820
03:00:04,469 --> 03:00:03,200
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4821
03:00:05,349 --> 03:00:04,479
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4822
03:00:07,190 --> 03:00:05,359
network

4823
03:00:08,550 --> 03:00:07,200
now i'm going to talk to richard for

4824
03:00:11,670 --> 03:00:08,560
another half hour

4825
03:00:12,469 --> 03:00:11,680
as i sign off until tomorrow night with

4826
03:00:23,910 --> 03:00:12,479
greg house

4827
03:00:42,760 --> 03:00:23,920
everybody be safe fade to black